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I agree with Kelley so rarely that it’s only fair to let him start off this post-Thanksgiving edition.

He’s right. If Democrats said to do those things, it wouldn’t give you permission, though if you wanted to import 400 tons of cocaine into the US, the president might pardon you as a good guy. But if you were ordered to kill suspected drug runners whom you could easily have intercepted and brought to trial, that would require a little thought on your part.

And if you blew up their boat and saw survivors clinging to the wreckage, you’d really have to think hard about either killing them or even just letting them drown. Even the Graf Spee picked up survivors of its WWII shipping raids,

and, when the Bismarck went down, the British rescued survivors. It’s common decency, but it’s also a matter of international law:

After each engagement, Parties to the conflict shall, without delay, take all possible measures to search for and collect the shipwrecked, wounded and sick, to protect them against pillage and ill-treatment, to ensure their adequate care, and to search for the dead and prevent their being despoiled.

UPDATE: Charlie Sykes offers a considerably more detailed explanation of the war crimes.

Meanwhile, if you were ordered to arrest a certain number of brown people and to ignore whether they had legal status in this country, you should probably consult a JAG, if you can find one who hasn’t been fired or co-opted.

BTW, as a civilian, don’t assume proper identification will protect you against outlaws with quotas to fill.

And if you’ve loaded people on an airplane to send them to an overseas gulag and a federal judge orders you to turn the plane around, you should either do that or else be prepared to face having illegally ignored a lawful order.

So Kelley is right: No matter who gives you an illegal order, it’s illegal to carry it out, and justice demands that you obey the law.

And don’t let a bully tell you anything different, no matter how outranked you may feel you are.

Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. — Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, 2:2

Speaking of which, and whom:

Juxtaposition of the Day

Let us not forget that Jeff Danziger served as an intelligence officer in Vietnam during that war, so he’s not speaking without some standing, though I’m sure he wouldn’t measure himself next to Mark Kelly, whom Bagley properly proportions next to his hair-gelled accuser.

Granted, Hegseth also saw service, but he noted the other day that he served during a period when boot camp was easy to get through and nobody did much to screen out the goldbricks, goof-offs and loudmouths. (He didn’t exactly phrase it that way.)

In any case, while Danziger’s more legalistic approach may be more applicable in Kelly’s defense, I think Bagley does a fine job of summing up how this ridiculous attempt to silence a critic is going over with the public. There are far too many poseurs who think beating your chest and bellowing is the mark of manliness, but I think they are louder than they are numerous.

I believe people in general respect a man who flies combat sorties, then travels into space and later enters politics when some deranged gunman tries to murder his wife.

I’m also hoping the bulk of people see through the game of name-calling and attempted bullying of those who stand with Kelly, a group of three men and three women, none of whom had anyone forge medical papers to excuse them from serving their nation.

Auchter specifically salutes Sen. Elissa Slotkin, a rising star from his own state, so I’ll tip my hat to Rep. Maggie Goodlander, my congressional rep, who has already had a bomb threat because she stood up for the law and for the oath she took.

I suspect a lot of Hegseth’s hostility to women in the military is based on a greater hostility to women in general, and he’d better steer clear of Tammy Duckworth, too.

In the words of James Thurber, “It is not so easy to fool little girls nowadays as it used to be.”

Thurber said that back in 1939. More recently, a woman on Facebook asked why none of the men in that press gaggle had done anything when Trump said “Quiet, piggy,” to Wall Street reporter Catherine Lucey.

My response was, and remains, “That Walter Raleigh s*** went out two generations ago.”

Maybe I’ve just gotten into the habit of hanging out with a more resilient, less dependent sort of woman who could stand up for herself.

They’ve never been hard to find, if you bothered to look.

Now let’s talk about airplanes:

Juxtaposition of the Day #2

Moudakis asks a reasonable question, though it’s somewhat theoretical, since Dear Leader has only expressed hostility towards Canada and threatened it with punitive tariffs. His talk of a 51st state has remained one of his senile fantasies, for the most part.

But Ramirez poses a more interesting topic, given that we’re selling advanced aircraft to the folks whose citizens crashed into the World Trade Center and whose government not only condoned but carried out the brutal murder of an American journalist. And these planes have some Chinese components.

Here’s the point: If you are still running your old Photoshop program instead of renting a new version from Adobe, they can reach into your computer and shut it down. And John Deere can activate a kill switch to remotely disable your tractor.

So, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya, punk? How safe would you feel flying a fighter jet that could conceivably be shut down whenever anybody — seller or supplier — decides it shouldn’t be operable?

Better hope there’s a manual override on the ejector mechanism.

Even if you don’t live in cut-your-own country, the Christmas trees in the local lot are probably American, and, if they’re imported, they were likely cut too long ago, so they’re not only subject tariffs but to fire. Shop local.

You can save even more by being Jewish or Muslim or Hindu, unless you’re putting a tree in your window to keep the Gestapo away.

Keep the faith(s), baby.

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  1. I don’t see anything to agree with in Kelley’s crapola. Not one thing. Making something up is not stating anything but a lie.

    1. Are you kidding? Making things up is government policy. In this case, he’s correct, and when that happens, it’s not legal to go along. Fortunately, that never has happened and probably never will. However, we have a whole lot of illegal orders to choose from that really have happened, and the list here is not complete.

    2. As far as I’m concerned, manufactured outrage is Kelley’s stock in trade. He does it in the panel shown here, but nothing quite beats the cesspool of “wimminamirite,” “young men are lazy,” “young women are slutty,” “wives suck,” and “pluggers are fat” that comprise the well of timeless humor that feeds Dustin. The fact that ghe art feels like a cheap ripoff of Zits only adds insult to injury.

    3. I think what Mike is saying is that, in Kelley’s attempt at both-sides-ism, his strawman, or in this case, woman, just happened to be correct – Democrats have indeed never said any such thing.

      Which is the strawman I think we both see, which is that Kelley is implying that Trump has never given any illegal orders.

      So, I can see your side, too.

    4. You sound like a typical Nazi Trumpist sympathiser. It is against all of you that we are mobilizing, calling forth Aotsunami (the Blue Tidal Wave) to sweep you away.

      1. Let’s leave Godwyn’s Law out of this, please.

  2. Your response to reporters standing up for themselves has been, “What are they going to do for a job tomorrow?”
    Given that most of the questions only serve to elicit inane responses, I’m sure they could still be reporters for their organizations from the sidelines if the news organizations have the backbone to support them or replace them with a temporary lineup of shills – here today, gone tomorrow.

    1. No, that’s my answer for reporters not giving up their careers to protest someone else being insulted. When you are assigned to interview a jackass, you write down “Hee Haw!” a lot. You don’t try to teach him to be a hummingbird. Or you go back to the office and tell the editor you want to cover cake recipes and parades.

  3. As for the bystanders when Trump said “Quiet, piggy:”

    “Silence in the face of injustice is complicity.”

    1. And as has been said since the beginning of Trump’s terms when he said something appalling on the campaign trail, there were plenty who said “Well, he just says what I’m thinking.”

    2. I would love to see a Trump press conference where all the reporters in the room with him were female, with not a male reporter in the room. It would probably be the shortest press conference that the Orange One would ever have.

    3. >> …a woman on Facebook asked why none of the men in that press gaggle had done anything when Trump said “Quiet, piggy,” to Wall Street reporter Catherine Lucey.
      of COURSE that’s a stupid question (i don’t even know why “a woman on Facebook” even deserves to be quoted). the problem with the absence of reporter retaliation simply isn’t gender-specific.
      and bravo to Les N for his excellent summation: “Silence in the face of injustice is complicity.”

      1. “Qui tacet consentire,” who is silent consents. Always. Everywhere. Silence is never just silence. When Democratic prophylaxis comes, at it inevitably will, silence will become culpable.

  4. Just this week, I moved from Colorado to deep southern Illinois.

    Below 92 MHz on my radio are now a plethora of religious right radio stations, where NPR and community radio stations used to be.

    One of the preachers was spouting off on how Mark Kelley was indeed encouraging insubordination and insurrection from the troops. He concluded with, “and just who is supposed to be deciding what an unlawful order is?”

    His contention was that, if any private, airman, or seaman could decide that an order is unlawful, that itself constituted insubordination and insurrection.

    Never mind that the soldier can – and will – be punished for disobeying an order, lawful or not, in addition to being punished for obeying an order that, after the fact, is proven to be unlawful.

    I served 22 years in the air force and thank God I never had to face that question.

    My son is in the national guard, and I fear for him almost every day.

    Such is the state of things today.

    1. Meanwhile, Trump and Hegseth have been evicerating the JAG Corp.

  5. “If you are still running your old Photoshop program instead of renting a new version from Adobe, they can reach into your computer and shut it down”

    I think you meant “UNLESS you’re still running your old Photoshop program”, although I’m sure the engineers at Adobe are tirelessly exploring that very capability as I write 🙂

    1. Thank you, that makes more sense for this Adobe Creative Suite 5.0 user.

    2. No, I meant what I said, with this caveat: You’re safe if you’re running your old CS4 on your Win10 computer. It won’t load on a newer machine. Also, if you install another Adobe product, they’ll search and find that older program and accuse you of stealing it. I don’t know if they’ll really shut it down, because the solution is to uninstall the new program and find, and disable, the little secret spy program that was installed with it. But I have to fire up an old laptop to use Photoshop because my current computer can’t load my old disk.

  6. Hmmm…
    Kelley said, “WHEN Democrats say…”
    You said, “IF…”
    Big difference. The first asserts that it has happened; the Six made no such claim.

  7. All I can say is if you’re really putting up Christmas decorations in the hopes that the ICEtapo won’t come knocking at your door, you better damn well make sure not to say “Feliz Navidad” much less “Happy Holidays”

    Santa isn’t the only one watching…

    1. The Elf on the Shelf will be replaced by the ICE on the Shelf.

  8. In 2016, when the final two candidates got their national security briefing, Trump asked the generals…three times…”Why can’t we use nukes?”. During a BLM rally in D.C., Trump asked General Milley, “Can’t you just shoot them in the leg?”. Yet people who suggest that Trump might give illegal orders (like sending the National Guard into cities) are pilloried by republicans for daring to pose such a question.

  9. If you disobey illegal orders, they can’t persecute you for it (ideally). What they will do is try to find some niggling mistake to blast you with or try to frame you for the crime of being uppity.

  10. We had a Chief in the Navy who made us strip and buff the floors every day. Someone mentioned that to the chaplain. Quite soon, the Chief was transferred to a lighthouse.

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