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	<title>Comments on: Mark Fiore wins 2010 Pulitzer Prize for editorial cartooning</title>
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		<title>By: Milt Priggee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milt Priggee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 05:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is Mark tried for years to support himself as a print cartoonist.

Ironically, the print world of newspapers told him SORRY, not in this lifetime.

So, he went after his his love of expressing his political/graphic beliefs digitally.

Ironically, he came way out ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is Mark tried for years to support himself as a print cartoonist.</p>
<p>Ironically, the print world of newspapers told him SORRY, not in this lifetime.</p>
<p>So, he went after his his love of expressing his political/graphic beliefs digitally.</p>
<p>Ironically, he came way out ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Brian Kelly</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2010/04/12/mark-fiore-wins-2010-pulitzer-prize-for-editorial-cartooning/#comment-92517</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Brian Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cast my vote for Fiore and Rall on the Iconoclast Party ticket for November 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cast my vote for Fiore and Rall on the Iconoclast Party ticket for November 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stephens</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2010/04/12/mark-fiore-wins-2010-pulitzer-prize-for-editorial-cartooning/#comment-92506</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Now parse away! Parse away! Parse away ALL!
....

But I heard him exclaim &#039;ere he drove out of sight,
Merry cartooning to all, and to all, a good night...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Now parse away! Parse away! Parse away ALL!<br />
&#8230;.</p>
<p>But I heard him exclaim &#8216;ere he drove out of sight,<br />
Merry cartooning to all, and to all, a good night&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom- that&#039;s a pretty good idea- There&#039;s so much multi media stuff on the web  from stuff on newspaper web pages to you-tube that would provide for a category that was a more level playing field for material that had more in common with each other, then  static editorial cartoon on paper vs 3 min. animated editorial cartoons do.   

I think last year Funky Winkerbean  was nominated for the Lisa 
Cancer story series.   But couldn&#039;t that have just as easily been put in a short story category or a category with graphic novels?

I can&#039;t imagine to many photographers who would  be thrilled having single still shot photo of theirs going up against  a three minute video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom- that&#8217;s a pretty good idea- There&#8217;s so much multi media stuff on the web  from stuff on newspaper web pages to you-tube that would provide for a category that was a more level playing field for material that had more in common with each other, then  static editorial cartoon on paper vs 3 min. animated editorial cartoons do.   </p>
<p>I think last year Funky Winkerbean  was nominated for the Lisa<br />
Cancer story series.   But couldn&#8217;t that have just as easily been put in a short story category or a category with graphic novels?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine to many photographers who would  be thrilled having single still shot photo of theirs going up against  a three minute video.</p>
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		<title>By: Derf Backderf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derf Backderf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From here on the Pulitzer will only be given to cartoons drawn with grease pencil. No exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From here on the Pulitzer will only be given to cartoons drawn with grease pencil. No exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When Doonesbury won over 30 years ago, people lost their minds because a “panel strip isn’t an editorial cartoon!” and yet, here we are, thirty years later, the institution survived.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So there&#039;s where it all began. 

Animation is a multi-panel cartoon shown in fast succession, like a flipbook. So I guess an argument could be made that a single panel cartoon is one category, and strips, multi-panels, and animation are all in another category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When Doonesbury won over 30 years ago, people lost their minds because a “panel strip isn’t an editorial cartoon!” and yet, here we are, thirty years later, the institution survived.</p></blockquote>
<p>So there&#8217;s where it all began. </p>
<p>Animation is a multi-panel cartoon shown in fast succession, like a flipbook. So I guess an argument could be made that a single panel cartoon is one category, and strips, multi-panels, and animation are all in another category.</p>
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		<title>By: JP Trostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Trostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I really did not want to let myself get dragged into this, and would have thought that Phil and Ted&#039;s answers (#33 and #34 respectively) would have squashed Donna B&#039;s argument like the sour little grape it is ...  

While the Pulitzer Board has been playing catch-up with the evolving art form of editorial cartooning these last couple of decades, they are still light years ahead of her.

So let&#039;s then address her misconceptions over the Pulitzer requirements directly: 1) They have accepted material submitted from online publications-only since 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/media/10pulitzer.html). Mark qualifies.

2) On two previous occasions, the judges directly cited the online animated cartoons that were part of the winner&#039;s and finalist&#039;s portfolios. That&#039;s precedence. Judges and board are still debating the exact parameters of this changing environment, as evidenced by statements made at a 2008 AAEC panel on this very topic (http://editorialcartoonists.com/news/article.cfm/821/ ... scroll down to &#039;Judging the Judges&#039;).

The main quote: &quot;Richard Oppel, an editor at the Austin American-Statesman and a Pulitzer board member, spoke of animation being a evolution of cartoons in the digital age. Oppel feels the media the cartoon is presented on is secondary to having a strong point-of-view and being a successful execution of an artist&#039;s idea, and that &#039;animation is part of the evolution of the craft.&#039;&quot;  Again, Mark qualifies.

3) Finally, if we were to take Donna B&#039;s logic to its extreme that Mark should be *disqualified* if he put together his cartoons with a staff of people, you would also have to strip 6 of this year&#039;s 14 winners of their awards because a team of people worked to get them.

Oh yeah, and if the Pulitzers aren&#039;t multimedia, then you better ask for the Drama and Music Prizes back while you&#039;re at it. Oh, and Hank Williams&#039; posthumous award.

I hear he was a songwriter at one point, and maybe a darn good one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I really did not want to let myself get dragged into this, and would have thought that Phil and Ted&#8217;s answers (#33 and #34 respectively) would have squashed Donna B&#8217;s argument like the sour little grape it is &#8230;  </p>
<p>While the Pulitzer Board has been playing catch-up with the evolving art form of editorial cartooning these last couple of decades, they are still light years ahead of her.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s then address her misconceptions over the Pulitzer requirements directly: 1) They have accepted material submitted from online publications-only since 2008 (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/media/10pulitzer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/media/10pulitzer.html</a>). Mark qualifies.</p>
<p>2) On two previous occasions, the judges directly cited the online animated cartoons that were part of the winner&#8217;s and finalist&#8217;s portfolios. That&#8217;s precedence. Judges and board are still debating the exact parameters of this changing environment, as evidenced by statements made at a 2008 AAEC panel on this very topic (<a href="http://editorialcartoonists.com/news/article.cfm/821/" rel="nofollow">http://editorialcartoonists.com/news/article.cfm/821/</a> &#8230; scroll down to &#8216;Judging the Judges&#8217;).</p>
<p>The main quote: &#8220;Richard Oppel, an editor at the Austin American-Statesman and a Pulitzer board member, spoke of animation being a evolution of cartoons in the digital age. Oppel feels the media the cartoon is presented on is secondary to having a strong point-of-view and being a successful execution of an artist&#8217;s idea, and that &#8216;animation is part of the evolution of the craft.&#8217;&#8221;  Again, Mark qualifies.</p>
<p>3) Finally, if we were to take Donna B&#8217;s logic to its extreme that Mark should be *disqualified* if he put together his cartoons with a staff of people, you would also have to strip 6 of this year&#8217;s 14 winners of their awards because a team of people worked to get them.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and if the Pulitzers aren&#8217;t multimedia, then you better ask for the Drama and Music Prizes back while you&#8217;re at it. Oh, and Hank Williams&#8217; posthumous award.</p>
<p>I hear he was a songwriter at one point, and maybe a darn good one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can Donna parse words like &quot;animation&quot; and &quot;cartoon&quot;? Yes.

Can Donna be wrong? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Donna parse words like &#8220;animation&#8221; and &#8220;cartoon&#8221;? Yes.</p>
<p>Can Donna be wrong? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, Donna, you make Ted Rall look nice.

I&#039;m starting to think the &quot;B&quot; in &quot;Donna B.&quot; stands for bitter.

Can a comic strip be an editorial cartoon? Yes.
Can a multi-panel cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.
Can a single panel cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.
Can a wordless cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.
Can an animation be an editorial cartoon? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Donna, you make Ted Rall look nice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think the &#8220;B&#8221; in &#8220;Donna B.&#8221; stands for bitter.</p>
<p>Can a comic strip be an editorial cartoon? Yes.<br />
Can a multi-panel cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.<br />
Can a single panel cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.<br />
Can a wordless cartoon be an editorial cartoon? Yes.<br />
Can an animation be an editorial cartoon? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Pauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Pauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna wrote: &quot;I hear Mark was a cartoonist at one point, and maybe a darn good one. Now he is an animator, and the Pulitzer Prize committee should be shot for giving this important award to an artform that isn’t anything like an editorial cartoon. Shame on you, Lucy.&quot;

Wow. Demeaning and insulting to all in one short paragraph. It&#039;d be more than appropriate for you apologize to Lucy, but honestly -- shame on them? Shame on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna wrote: &#8220;I hear Mark was a cartoonist at one point, and maybe a darn good one. Now he is an animator, and the Pulitzer Prize committee should be shot for giving this important award to an artform that isn’t anything like an editorial cartoon. Shame on you, Lucy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Demeaning and insulting to all in one short paragraph. It&#8217;d be more than appropriate for you apologize to Lucy, but honestly &#8212; shame on them? Shame on you.</p>
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