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		<title>By: Pedro Molina.</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2009/04/28/photoshop-crutch-or-powertool/#comment-82516</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Molina.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, pen, ink, brush, photoshop, painter, 3D, those are just tools, would somebody say that the Sixtine Chapel has less artistic value because Michael angelo used fresco instead of Mammoth blood?... of course, if you are lazy or in a hurry, you can easily fall in the dark side of the technology and just use filters, wich is some way, the new term for the old fashioned &quot;tracing&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, pen, ink, brush, photoshop, painter, 3D, those are just tools, would somebody say that the Sixtine Chapel has less artistic value because Michael angelo used fresco instead of Mammoth blood?&#8230; of course, if you are lazy or in a hurry, you can easily fall in the dark side of the technology and just use filters, wich is some way, the new term for the old fashioned &#8220;tracing&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wohlrab</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2009/04/28/photoshop-crutch-or-powertool/#comment-82490</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wohlrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60.. what does their son do?  Specific job title  please.   He&#039;s probably not a character animator.  A modeler MAYBE, but even they need to sketch their models beforehand. He  could do lighting effects or rigging or mapping textures .. things i don&#039;t know anything about but he&#039;s not a story artist, character designer or background artist. 

for all we know his job could be exporting jpgs for an animation test.
there is no magic button in photoshop or illustrator that will magically create the characters you see on the big screen... hate to deliver the bad news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60.. what does their son do?  Specific job title  please.   He&#8217;s probably not a character animator.  A modeler MAYBE, but even they need to sketch their models beforehand. He  could do lighting effects or rigging or mapping textures .. things i don&#8217;t know anything about but he&#8217;s not a story artist, character designer or background artist. </p>
<p>for all we know his job could be exporting jpgs for an animation test.<br />
there is no magic button in photoshop or illustrator that will magically create the characters you see on the big screen&#8230; hate to deliver the bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: Lippy Lippy</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2009/04/28/photoshop-crutch-or-powertool/#comment-82486</link>
		<dc:creator>Lippy Lippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Painter - 

Yeah, just to be clear.. I&#039;m all for HAND-DRAWING inn P-shop or Painter or anything else.. Hell, I use Flash to do final inking (NOT recommended!), but it&#039;s the photo manipulation without hand-tuning that I pooh pooh...

-Lippy
www.faultlinescomic.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Painter &#8211; </p>
<p>Yeah, just to be clear.. I&#8217;m all for HAND-DRAWING inn P-shop or Painter or anything else.. Hell, I use Flash to do final inking (NOT recommended!), but it&#8217;s the photo manipulation without hand-tuning that I pooh pooh&#8230;</p>
<p>-Lippy<br />
<a href="http://www.faultlinescomic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.faultlinescomic.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Collins</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2009/04/28/photoshop-crutch-or-powertool/#comment-82481</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I prefer Painter. It&#039;s a much more naturally artistic feeling that I get when working in it. 

Corey, I was told that I am the Bad Cartoonist. Well, one of them anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I prefer Painter. It&#8217;s a much more naturally artistic feeling that I get when working in it. </p>
<p>Corey, I was told that I am the Bad Cartoonist. Well, one of them anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Lippy Lippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lippy Lippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s lazy to use a Photoshopped image like S. has done.

There is a beauty to seeing something hand drawn, and it&#039;s becoming rarer every day.

Lippy
-www.faultlinescomic.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s lazy to use a Photoshopped image like S. has done.</p>
<p>There is a beauty to seeing something hand drawn, and it&#8217;s becoming rarer every day.</p>
<p>Lippy<br />
-www.faultlinescomic.com</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly McNutt</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2009/04/28/photoshop-crutch-or-powertool/#comment-82469</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly McNutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J Darcy #60: Proven point? Ok.. whatever. I&#039;m not going to quibble over what you said vs. what you meant vs. what it sounded like you said/meant. I&#039;ll say that I have a friend who works at one of the studios you mentioned and he (and funny &#039;nuff, he said it&#039;s not at all surprising if he&#039;s surrounded by people who, like him) can draw really well no matter WHAT he&#039;s drawing with, which goes to my point that be it a burnt stick or Photoshop or Sketchbook Pro, you have to have the underlying foundation to make effective use of those tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J Darcy #60: Proven point? Ok.. whatever. I&#8217;m not going to quibble over what you said vs. what you meant vs. what it sounded like you said/meant. I&#8217;ll say that I have a friend who works at one of the studios you mentioned and he (and funny &#8217;nuff, he said it&#8217;s not at all surprising if he&#8217;s surrounded by people who, like him) can draw really well no matter WHAT he&#8217;s drawing with, which goes to my point that be it a burnt stick or Photoshop or Sketchbook Pro, you have to have the underlying foundation to make effective use of those tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like John and his stuff.   But I think Nick&#039;s probably right about his being on thin ice on this one.   I&#039;m a felllow cartoonist and even I thought that was his own work so what&#039;s the average reader going to think.   The look on the Ayatollah&#039;s face is a big part of that cartoon. And in reality someone else besides John created that look----ALLAH!  -Ha, and the photographer.  When I used a photo of Obama talking to the German masses last year  I credited the photgrapher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like John and his stuff.   But I think Nick&#8217;s probably right about his being on thin ice on this one.   I&#8217;m a felllow cartoonist and even I thought that was his own work so what&#8217;s the average reader going to think.   The look on the Ayatollah&#8217;s face is a big part of that cartoon. And in reality someone else besides John created that look&#8212;-ALLAH!  -Ha, and the photographer.  When I used a photo of Obama talking to the German masses last year  I credited the photgrapher.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know someone  who&#039;s son currently works as a creator for one of the two animation studios I mentioned.   I ask him about his ability to draw and his training.   He said he can&#039;t draw free hand and never did and that is not uncommon at all at these studios as you might think because its computer based and his generation learned on computers first instead of a drawing pad.    This guy has worked as a designer and animator on two recent major releases. I&#039;m sure they&#039;re many at these studios who can draw freehand- but this guy  proves my point that photoshop ,illustrator and the rest  has allowed some obviously very talented people to have a career who might not otherwise.
Again, I know one of the most highly awarded  and sought -out photo-illustrators working today.   By there own admission and by my own eyes they have just so-so hand drawing ability-But there photoshop illustrations  are masterfull in there concept and execution as one national competition after another has proven.     It&#039;s the ideas that count most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know someone  who&#8217;s son currently works as a creator for one of the two animation studios I mentioned.   I ask him about his ability to draw and his training.   He said he can&#8217;t draw free hand and never did and that is not uncommon at all at these studios as you might think because its computer based and his generation learned on computers first instead of a drawing pad.    This guy has worked as a designer and animator on two recent major releases. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re many at these studios who can draw freehand- but this guy  proves my point that photoshop ,illustrator and the rest  has allowed some obviously very talented people to have a career who might not otherwise.<br />
Again, I know one of the most highly awarded  and sought -out photo-illustrators working today.   By there own admission and by my own eyes they have just so-so hand drawing ability-But there photoshop illustrations  are masterfull in there concept and execution as one national competition after another has proven.     It&#8217;s the ideas that count most.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editorial cartoon? Caricature? Editorial Illustration? Graphic?  Fair use of existing image?  Whether I like it or not, this style and others I&#039;m not crazy about are out there for editors to buy or not to buy in a free market exchange.  

Their buying decisions define my market rightly or wrongly.  I have to deal with it and unlike GM, I think it&#039;s healthy to welcome the competition.

Not everybody wins a trophy.  -or should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editorial cartoon? Caricature? Editorial Illustration? Graphic?  Fair use of existing image?  Whether I like it or not, this style and others I&#8217;m not crazy about are out there for editors to buy or not to buy in a free market exchange.  </p>
<p>Their buying decisions define my market rightly or wrongly.  I have to deal with it and unlike GM, I think it&#8217;s healthy to welcome the competition.</p>
<p>Not everybody wins a trophy.  -or should.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think Sherffius altered the work significantly enough...&quot;

More rationalization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Sherffius altered the work significantly enough&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>More rationalization.</p>
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