Comments on: Steve Breen uninvited to speak to students after anti-teacher union cartoon http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/ The source for industry news for the professional cartoonist Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:29:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: catsue http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-79796 catsue Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:39:40 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-79796 Why would a POLITICAL cartoonist speak to little kids? This seems more like a High School thing. Teachers work very hard and have to deal with psycho parents, illegals, and kids that don't behave (because the baby daddy is in jail). However, the union is scum. Del Mar Union, as are all the districts in California, has a SEVERE budget crisis. So what does the union do, they gave all the teachers a 3% raise. Well now there is not enough money in the budget so they will have to lay off some. SMART! Why would a POLITICAL cartoonist speak to little kids? This seems more like a High School thing.

Teachers work very hard and have to deal with psycho parents, illegals, and kids that don’t behave (because the baby daddy is in jail).

However, the union is scum.
Del Mar Union, as are all the districts in California, has a SEVERE budget crisis. So what does the union do, they gave all the teachers a 3% raise. Well now there is not enough money in the budget so they will have to lay off some.
SMART!

]]> By: PhilWohlrab http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78254 PhilWohlrab Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:02:38 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78254 I don't know anything about teachers or auto unions but I was in a union at the grocery store. It was totally unnecessary. If the union went on strike, people would walk around the strikers and go shop for food. The store could train an ape to take money and bag groceries. All the union did was take money out of my pay check , and keep a few degenerates who belonged in jail, from getting fired. They couldn't even fight for your job if you stole from the store, so essentially their whole operation was worthless. Why do some say they are a "proud" union man? What is so great about being apart of a union? I never felt like a proud union man behind my cash register. I don’t know anything about teachers or auto unions but I was in a union at the grocery store. It was totally unnecessary. If the union went on strike, people would walk around the strikers and go shop for food. The store could train an ape to take money and bag groceries. All the union did was take money out of my pay check , and keep a few degenerates who belonged in jail, from getting fired. They couldn’t even fight for your job if you stole from the store, so essentially their whole operation was worthless.

Why do some say they are a “proud” union man? What is so great about being apart of a union? I never felt like a proud union man behind my cash register.

]]> By: anne hambrock http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78249 anne hambrock Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:17:16 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78249 I highly doubt this decision was made by a teacher. More likely an administrator or union higher up.This oversensitivity issue is not a problem restricted to our education system - how many items have we read here about editorial cartoons ticking people off and editors caving to the demands of whoever was offended. The real problem here is that, in this day and age, as everyone scrambles to keep their jobs, their circulation numbers or whatever, the "I'm so offended crowd" has way more power than they should. This sounds less like a case of "I'm so offended" as a case of "I bet a lot of people WILL be offended so I better pull the plug now". I highly doubt this decision was made by a teacher. More likely an administrator or union higher up.This oversensitivity issue is not a problem restricted to our education system – how many items have we read here about editorial cartoons ticking people off and editors caving to the demands of whoever was offended.

The real problem here is that, in this day and age, as everyone scrambles to keep their jobs, their circulation numbers or whatever, the “I’m so offended crowd” has way more power than they should.

This sounds less like a case of “I’m so offended” as a case of “I bet a lot of people WILL be offended so I better pull the plug now”.

]]> By: Mike Peterson http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78248 Mike Peterson Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:33:49 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78248 "From the teachers I know, and I know plenty, public schools have really become snow globes of hypersensitivity." True, though I don't think private schools are much less so -- just that some are hypersensitive about different things. Also, the power structure in schools allows for certain key people to be foot-draggers. You probably remember the faculty mafia from your own days -- those teachers who ruled the roost and could make life miserable for kids they didn't like. What you might have missed then was that they do the same thing for their colleagues. In recent years, they've lost a little power, but they're still there. At one paper where I did educational services, we were locked out of a school district because we had covered a case of a teacher who sexually assaulted students. A key member of the faculty mafia objected and it was years until we got back in, basically when I took over the job. Once I got into the place, I found out most of the faculty considered him a blowhard and were happy to work with us. My predecessor had simply been afraid to confront him. But there's no time for end runs in a quick-response situation like this and I've been knocked out a couple of times on the momentary fit of pique. Come to think of it, once was over a political cartoon. I spent an hour with the superintendent, then was invited to talk about political cartoons to the juniors and seniors -- on the condition that I let them grill me on that one. “From the teachers I know, and I know plenty, public schools have really become snow globes of hypersensitivity.”

True, though I don’t think private schools are much less so — just that some are hypersensitive about different things.

Also, the power structure in schools allows for certain key people to be foot-draggers. You probably remember the faculty mafia from your own days — those teachers who ruled the roost and could make life miserable for kids they didn’t like. What you might have missed then was that they do the same thing for their colleagues. In recent years, they’ve lost a little power, but they’re still there.

At one paper where I did educational services, we were locked out of a school district because we had covered a case of a teacher who sexually assaulted students. A key member of the faculty mafia objected and it was years until we got back in, basically when I took over the job. Once I got into the place, I found out most of the faculty considered him a blowhard and were happy to work with us. My predecessor had simply been afraid to confront him. But there’s no time for end runs in a quick-response situation like this and I’ve been knocked out a couple of times on the momentary fit of pique.

Come to think of it, once was over a political cartoon. I spent an hour with the superintendent, then was invited to talk about political cartoons to the juniors and seniors — on the condition that I let them grill me on that one.

]]> By: Phil Wohlrab http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78247 Phil Wohlrab Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:26:52 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78247 Is this the same crowd that doesn't want to use red ink when grading because it would be too critical or emotionally damaging to the children? It would explain a lot. Is this the same crowd that doesn’t want to use red ink when grading because it would be too critical or emotionally damaging to the children? It would explain a lot.

]]> By: Lucas Turnbloom http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78246 Lucas Turnbloom Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:31:14 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78246 Agreed Stacy. BTW, you're illustrations are fantastic, bud. Agreed Stacy. BTW, you’re illustrations are fantastic, bud.

]]> By: Stacy Curtis http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78245 Stacy Curtis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:02:06 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78245 It's the children at the school who were hurt by this, not Steve. It’s the children at the school who were hurt by this, not Steve.

]]> By: Daryll Collins http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78244 Daryll Collins Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:18:13 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78244 From the teachers I know, and I know plenty, public schools have really become snow globes of hypersensitivity. Especially in the last 10 to 15 years. Let's not discuss issues, just eliminate any possibility of discerning thought. Problem solved. Sorry, but they live in an insular world and do not like being challenged on policy. From the teachers I know, and I know plenty, public schools have really become snow globes of hypersensitivity. Especially in the last 10 to 15 years. Let’s not discuss issues, just eliminate any possibility of discerning thought.

Problem solved.

Sorry, but they live in an insular world and do not like being challenged on policy.

]]> By: Paul Fell http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78243 Paul Fell Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:47:15 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78243 I agree. The kids in an elementary school probably don't look at editorial cartoons, anyway. When I do school programs I show a few easy-to-understand editorial cartoons and the rest of it is more along the lines of humorous illustrations and cartoon characters. I ask the volunteers to come up the easel and write a number. I then develop the number into a cartoon character. As a finale, I ask the principal and maybe one or two teachers to come up and pose for a caricature. That's the big hit of the program. Betcha a buck that's the kind of program Steve was going to present. And probably for free, to boot. I agree. The kids in an elementary school probably don’t look at editorial cartoons, anyway. When I do school programs I show a few easy-to-understand editorial cartoons and the rest of it is more along the lines of humorous illustrations and cartoon characters.

I ask the volunteers to come up the easel and write a number. I then develop the number into a cartoon character. As a finale, I ask the principal and maybe one or two teachers to come up and pose for a caricature. That’s the big hit of the program.

Betcha a buck that’s the kind of program Steve was going to present. And probably for free, to boot.

]]> By: KRANKY (JOE RANK) http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78242 KRANKY (JOE RANK) Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:41:49 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/12/08/steve-breen-uninvited-to-speak-to-students-after-anti-teacher-union-cartoon/#comment-78242 What is even more curious is Breen's depiction of the California state government as an affluent oil tanker! A more accurate portrayal would have been to have the corporate pirates, the public pension fund raiders, the clueless politicians, and miscellaneous institutionalized thieves throwing the teachers overboard; from a SINKING SHIP! What is even more curious is Breen’s depiction of the California state government as an affluent oil tanker!
A more accurate portrayal would have been to have the corporate pirates, the public pension fund raiders, the clueless politicians, and miscellaneous institutionalized thieves throwing the teachers overboard; from a SINKING SHIP!

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