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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/08/19/new-runs-re-runs-half-truths-and-market-speak/#comment-76060</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that my knowing Lynn personally has nothing to do with my position on this matter. I opinion on it is the same as with other features where the creator of the strip has assistants helping produce it. I have no problem with that, as that&#039;s their personal and business decision. Once they&#039;re dead, however, it becomes another issue. Yes, I know it&#039;s a fine line, but it&#039;s a distinct one, as the creator is no longer around to oversee the final product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that my knowing Lynn personally has nothing to do with my position on this matter. I opinion on it is the same as with other features where the creator of the strip has assistants helping produce it. I have no problem with that, as that&#8217;s their personal and business decision. Once they&#8217;re dead, however, it becomes another issue. Yes, I know it&#8217;s a fine line, but it&#8217;s a distinct one, as the creator is no longer around to oversee the final product.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/08/19/new-runs-re-runs-half-truths-and-market-speak/#comment-76059</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wasnâ€™t there in the meetings, or in the room when Lynn took the phone calls, but I know she was persuaded to carry on after her projected retirement, with promises that she need not actually lift a finger.&quot;

Ok... if you weren&#039;t there, or in the room when Lynn took the calls, or even know Lynn, then how could you &quot;know she was persuaded&quot;?

But, yes, she was persuaded, but not by the syndicate. She was persuaded by drastic and unexpected changes in her life, Malc. As long as she&#039;s doing her feature, she can produce it any way she wants. Your El Cid analogy would be apt if she died or retired and the syndicate kept it going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wasnâ€™t there in the meetings, or in the room when Lynn took the phone calls, but I know she was persuaded to carry on after her projected retirement, with promises that she need not actually lift a finger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok&#8230; if you weren&#8217;t there, or in the room when Lynn took the calls, or even know Lynn, then how could you &#8220;know she was persuaded&#8221;?</p>
<p>But, yes, she was persuaded, but not by the syndicate. She was persuaded by drastic and unexpected changes in her life, Malc. As long as she&#8217;s doing her feature, she can produce it any way she wants. Your El Cid analogy would be apt if she died or retired and the syndicate kept it going.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m seeing it from an independent cartoonist&#039;s perspective, and that (once again, imho) has to be the most dispassionate, objective and clear view. Once personal friendship comes into it, the lines become a little fuzzy, that&#039;s human nature and unavoidable.

Lynn Johnson flagged as early as 2001 that she was ill, she felt she had lost her perspective and that she wanted to retire - no, even more than that, she was GOING to. She set the date and the clock was ticking.

What happened after that was she was got at.

I wasn&#039;t there in the meetings, or in the room when Lynn took the phone calls, but I know she was persuaded to carry on after her projected retirement, with promises that she need not actually lift a finger. 
It would be all down to her team of artists and the syndicate&#039;s marketing department. The feature would continue on in the same way El Cid did when they propped up his dead body on his horse and sent him to battle the Moors.

Still, that was apparently his decision too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m seeing it from an independent cartoonist&#8217;s perspective, and that (once again, imho) has to be the most dispassionate, objective and clear view. Once personal friendship comes into it, the lines become a little fuzzy, that&#8217;s human nature and unavoidable.</p>
<p>Lynn Johnson flagged as early as 2001 that she was ill, she felt she had lost her perspective and that she wanted to retire &#8211; no, even more than that, she was GOING to. She set the date and the clock was ticking.</p>
<p>What happened after that was she was got at.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t there in the meetings, or in the room when Lynn took the phone calls, but I know she was persuaded to carry on after her projected retirement, with promises that she need not actually lift a finger.<br />
It would be all down to her team of artists and the syndicate&#8217;s marketing department. The feature would continue on in the same way El Cid did when they propped up his dead body on his horse and sent him to battle the Moors.</p>
<p>Still, that was apparently his decision too.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re looking at this from two different angles, Malc.
You&#039;re looking at it from the syndicate&#039;s perspective, and I&#039;m looking at it from Lynn&#039;s perspective. 

It still boils down to it being Lynn&#039;s feature to produce, or retire, in the manner she sees fit. And she&#039;s going to do what&#039;s best for her life, just as anyone else would do. Time will tell if she&#039;s made the right decision or not, as there have already been several reports of newspapers not liking the idea and getting ready to drop it. Then its a matter of how they&#039;ll deal with the reader response. 

In any case, she chose not to retire. And that&#039;s pretty much the final answer. Her life, her decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re looking at this from two different angles, Malc.<br />
You&#8217;re looking at it from the syndicate&#8217;s perspective, and I&#8217;m looking at it from Lynn&#8217;s perspective. </p>
<p>It still boils down to it being Lynn&#8217;s feature to produce, or retire, in the manner she sees fit. And she&#8217;s going to do what&#8217;s best for her life, just as anyone else would do. Time will tell if she&#8217;s made the right decision or not, as there have already been several reports of newspapers not liking the idea and getting ready to drop it. Then its a matter of how they&#8217;ll deal with the reader response. </p>
<p>In any case, she chose not to retire. And that&#8217;s pretty much the final answer. Her life, her decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiley, you know I&#039;ve got the greatest respect for you, but I have to disagree on this one.

It has everything to do with us whether a feature like FBOFW sees out its time in dignified fashion or whether it&#039;s propped up by artifice to keep the shelf space for the syndicate.

Let there be no mistake here, this is purely about business - cold hard cash is the motivation, not any concern for Lynn&#039;s welfare or her reputation, and beyond that it is detrimental to cartooning as an art form and a profession.

The whole concept of posting old FBOFW strips is an interesting one, but (as has been mentioned before) it should be in book form, in a collection for the FBOFW purists.
I think there are legions of them, but I doubt if they are interested in seeing these archival, historical strips scattered piecemeal amongst later work in newspapers by a team of admin workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiley, you know I&#8217;ve got the greatest respect for you, but I have to disagree on this one.</p>
<p>It has everything to do with us whether a feature like FBOFW sees out its time in dignified fashion or whether it&#8217;s propped up by artifice to keep the shelf space for the syndicate.</p>
<p>Let there be no mistake here, this is purely about business &#8211; cold hard cash is the motivation, not any concern for Lynn&#8217;s welfare or her reputation, and beyond that it is detrimental to cartooning as an art form and a profession.</p>
<p>The whole concept of posting old FBOFW strips is an interesting one, but (as has been mentioned before) it should be in book form, in a collection for the FBOFW purists.<br />
I think there are legions of them, but I doubt if they are interested in seeing these archival, historical strips scattered piecemeal amongst later work in newspapers by a team of admin workers.</p>
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		<title>By: steve s</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this should even matter. If a strip is featuring repeats or rehashed versions of already run strips, the newspapers carrying it might want to (should) look at carrying another strip. If a product isn&#039;t up to snuff, then don&#039;t buy it. But then again, this doesn&#039;t really happen. If it did, I&#039;d see strips like Cul De Sac and On A Claire Day in my paper instead of Peanuts and Garfield. The Gatekeepers should be the newspapers themselves. Perhaps there are still enough readers of FBOFW in this new form that they want to keep carrying it, which is a simple business decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this should even matter. If a strip is featuring repeats or rehashed versions of already run strips, the newspapers carrying it might want to (should) look at carrying another strip. If a product isn&#8217;t up to snuff, then don&#8217;t buy it. But then again, this doesn&#8217;t really happen. If it did, I&#8217;d see strips like Cul De Sac and On A Claire Day in my paper instead of Peanuts and Garfield. The Gatekeepers should be the newspapers themselves. Perhaps there are still enough readers of FBOFW in this new form that they want to keep carrying it, which is a simple business decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/08/19/new-runs-re-runs-half-truths-and-market-speak/#comment-76051</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a lot more to her decision making than just the syndicate posing an option for her. She wasn&#039;t talked into anything, just given an alternative to deal with situations that unexpectedly came up. 

Again, it&#039;s a personal decision that we all make in our lives (except for those who are forced into a mandatory retirement). Sometimes events postpone retirement plans. But it&#039;s still a personal decision, not an artistic or ethical issue. It has nothing to do with any of us anymore than what clothes she chooses to wear would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a lot more to her decision making than just the syndicate posing an option for her. She wasn&#8217;t talked into anything, just given an alternative to deal with situations that unexpectedly came up. </p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s a personal decision that we all make in our lives (except for those who are forced into a mandatory retirement). Sometimes events postpone retirement plans. But it&#8217;s still a personal decision, not an artistic or ethical issue. It has nothing to do with any of us anymore than what clothes she chooses to wear would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DON&#039;T read it, Wiley.

I know enough about it to see why it&#039;s popular, but I don&#039;t read it. Don&#039;t know the names of characters, how they relate to each other, nothing.

I&#039;m not basing my opinions on how much I like the strip, or (and take note) how much I like Lynn. It&#039;s the principle of the thing.

I don&#039;t count Lynn Johnson amongst my personal friends, and I&#039;ve never had a conversation with her face to face OR by phone. I don&#039;t need to to have an OPINION on this issue.

That opinion is based on what she has said publicly, not on what I have manufactured out of my imagination.

Lynn said: &quot;Initially that was my plan (to retire like Watterson, Larson, etc), and I had sort of speculated on what type of work would fill that space, because that little piece of real estate in the newspaper is a pretty coveted one. Then when Universal Press said that they felt there was real opportunity to run the older strips, I thought about it and decided that their argument was a good one&quot;.

So she wanted to retire but her syndicate persuaded her to keep going. Fine. I think she should have stuck to her guns, because I think carrying FBOFW on in the proposed manner will lessen it, lessen her and ultimately take away everything she has achieved. 

But hey, I&#039;m not her friend, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DON&#8217;T read it, Wiley.</p>
<p>I know enough about it to see why it&#8217;s popular, but I don&#8217;t read it. Don&#8217;t know the names of characters, how they relate to each other, nothing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not basing my opinions on how much I like the strip, or (and take note) how much I like Lynn. It&#8217;s the principle of the thing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t count Lynn Johnson amongst my personal friends, and I&#8217;ve never had a conversation with her face to face OR by phone. I don&#8217;t need to to have an OPINION on this issue.</p>
<p>That opinion is based on what she has said publicly, not on what I have manufactured out of my imagination.</p>
<p>Lynn said: &#8220;Initially that was my plan (to retire like Watterson, Larson, etc), and I had sort of speculated on what type of work would fill that space, because that little piece of real estate in the newspaper is a pretty coveted one. Then when Universal Press said that they felt there was real opportunity to run the older strips, I thought about it and decided that their argument was a good one&#8221;.</p>
<p>So she wanted to retire but her syndicate persuaded her to keep going. Fine. I think she should have stuck to her guns, because I think carrying FBOFW on in the proposed manner will lessen it, lessen her and ultimately take away everything she has achieved. </p>
<p>But hey, I&#8217;m not her friend, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;â€œI think sheâ€™s earned the right to do whatever she wants with HER feature.â€

Including retire it.&lt;&lt;

Precisely. And she has opted to not retire it. So how is this personal decision on what she&#039;s going to do with her life any of our business and worthy of even discussing here? You don&#039;t like the direction she&#039;s taking with the strip? Fine. That&#039;s all fodder for discussion on these forums. So the only options you see is for her to do her strip the way you want or to retire? Just a tad egocentric there, don&#039;t you think? 

Her strip is no different than anyone else&#039;s. If you don&#039;t like what she&#039;s doing, then don&#039;t read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;â€œI think sheâ€™s earned the right to do whatever she wants with HER feature.â€</p>
<p>Including retire it.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Precisely. And she has opted to not retire it. So how is this personal decision on what she&#8217;s going to do with her life any of our business and worthy of even discussing here? You don&#8217;t like the direction she&#8217;s taking with the strip? Fine. That&#8217;s all fodder for discussion on these forums. So the only options you see is for her to do her strip the way you want or to retire? Just a tad egocentric there, don&#8217;t you think? </p>
<p>Her strip is no different than anyone else&#8217;s. If you don&#8217;t like what she&#8217;s doing, then don&#8217;t read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think sheâ€™s earned the right to do whatever she wants with HER feature.&quot;

Including retire it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think sheâ€™s earned the right to do whatever she wants with HER feature.&#8221;</p>
<p>Including retire it.</p>
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