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	<title>Comments on: Ted Rall offers 3 cures for newspaper conundrum</title>
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		<title>By: Robert George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its seems to me the decline of newspapers preceded the rise of the internet, and so long as cable and network news exist and is willing to field its own reporters or buy from the wire, papers will be out of luck.  Especially since they publish online.  I read the NYT every day online, but I would stop if it was subscription because there is no way I can afford it.  MSNBC would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its seems to me the decline of newspapers preceded the rise of the internet, and so long as cable and network news exist and is willing to field its own reporters or buy from the wire, papers will be out of luck.  Especially since they publish online.  I read the NYT every day online, but I would stop if it was subscription because there is no way I can afford it.  MSNBC would do.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Cravens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Cravens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, no swearing I promise.
We work for peanuts.
Our equipment is often obsolete.
Our buildings are often in disrepair.
We take all manner of verbal abuse. 
Death threats, whiners, you name it.
Now we&#039;re whores.

Well, speaking of prostitution, I&#039;ve got ads to build. Ta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, no swearing I promise.<br />
We work for peanuts.<br />
Our equipment is often obsolete.<br />
Our buildings are often in disrepair.<br />
We take all manner of verbal abuse.<br />
Death threats, whiners, you name it.<br />
Now we&#8217;re whores.</p>
<p>Well, speaking of prostitution, I&#8217;ve got ads to build. Ta</p>
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		<title>By: KRANKY (JOE RANK)</title>
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		<dc:creator>KRANKY (JOE RANK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except in a few choice markets, journalism is dead. 
There are so many mistakes...egregious ones that are abysmally bad, that get into the local establishment rag; that it makes &quot;Shoe&quot; look professional. ( why Shoe is a good parody ).

Newspapers today are less honorable than prostitutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except in a few choice markets, journalism is dead.<br />
There are so many mistakes&#8230;egregious ones that are abysmally bad, that get into the local establishment rag; that it makes &#8220;Shoe&#8221; look professional. ( why Shoe is a good parody ).</p>
<p>Newspapers today are less honorable than prostitutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or are you talking about strips?&quot;

Yep, I&#039;m talking about strips. The WSJ prints individual cartoons, obviously, which is not syndicated content, and that squares with my argument that syndicated content, by virtue of its non-uniqueness, is part of what newspapers have to combat if they are to survive.

The fact that many large newspapers operate in a one-paper town yet still can&#039;t establish a unique persona is testament to the malaise of &quot;McDonaldism&quot; sweeping the world generally.
Strips can be equated to Big Macs, you&#039;ll get the same bland, uninspiring item wherever you are in the U.S.

What they SHOULD be like is the Soup Nazi in Seinfeld, offering a unique and superior product only available at one location, creating huge demand and getting paid well for it.
 A columnist is unlikely to be able to achieve this, but a talented writer who also draws could do it. A Larson for the New Millennium, in other words. Working for one paper exclusively and selling compilation books and swag on the internet would bring in more than enough money for the right candidate. Fame (if it&#039;s what you seek) will follow, no matter if your strip is only published in the L.A. Times. 

I never saw Dilbert or C&amp;H in a newspaper until years after I bought a Dilbert or C&amp;H book in a store. Syndication brings success to a very few. 

Cartoon strips have to become unique. Newpapers AND cartooning will benefit from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or are you talking about strips?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, I&#8217;m talking about strips. The WSJ prints individual cartoons, obviously, which is not syndicated content, and that squares with my argument that syndicated content, by virtue of its non-uniqueness, is part of what newspapers have to combat if they are to survive.</p>
<p>The fact that many large newspapers operate in a one-paper town yet still can&#8217;t establish a unique persona is testament to the malaise of &#8220;McDonaldism&#8221; sweeping the world generally.<br />
Strips can be equated to Big Macs, you&#8217;ll get the same bland, uninspiring item wherever you are in the U.S.</p>
<p>What they SHOULD be like is the Soup Nazi in Seinfeld, offering a unique and superior product only available at one location, creating huge demand and getting paid well for it.<br />
 A columnist is unlikely to be able to achieve this, but a talented writer who also draws could do it. A Larson for the New Millennium, in other words. Working for one paper exclusively and selling compilation books and swag on the internet would bring in more than enough money for the right candidate. Fame (if it&#8217;s what you seek) will follow, no matter if your strip is only published in the L.A. Times. </p>
<p>I never saw Dilbert or C&amp;H in a newspaper until years after I bought a Dilbert or C&amp;H book in a store. Syndication brings success to a very few. </p>
<p>Cartoon strips have to become unique. Newpapers AND cartooning will benefit from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod McKie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod McKie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sell cartoons to the WSJ, or at least I did before I took some time off - has it stopped taking cartoons McGookin?  Or are you talking about strips?

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All newspapers do is deliver customers to advertisers.  The content they carry is designed to appeal to their ideal reader, and they promise to deliver x-amount of those ideal readers (the old demographic)to that advertiser in return for that advertiser&#039;s money.

Those advertisers have looked at falling readerships and they will not, under any circumstances, go back to the newspapers in the hope that the readers will return.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sell cartoons to the WSJ, or at least I did before I took some time off &#8211; has it stopped taking cartoons McGookin?  Or are you talking about strips?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
All newspapers do is deliver customers to advertisers.  The content they carry is designed to appeal to their ideal reader, and they promise to deliver x-amount of those ideal readers (the old demographic)to that advertiser in return for that advertiser&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Those advertisers have looked at falling readerships and they will not, under any circumstances, go back to the newspapers in the hope that the readers will return.<br />
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		<title>By: Ted Rall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Rall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,
How is the Huffington Post &quot;serious competition&quot; to actual newspapers, or even wire services? HuffPo wouldn&#039;t have anything to comment upon without newspapers who pay for reporters to go out and find news. Since they don&#039;t pay their writers, they don&#039;t even have real opinion writers.
HuffPo&#039;s quality is an embarrassment, proving that you get what you pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,<br />
How is the Huffington Post &#8220;serious competition&#8221; to actual newspapers, or even wire services? HuffPo wouldn&#8217;t have anything to comment upon without newspapers who pay for reporters to go out and find news. Since they don&#8217;t pay their writers, they don&#8217;t even have real opinion writers.<br />
HuffPo&#8217;s quality is an embarrassment, proving that you get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unless that paper has a highly desirable content unique to that publication like the Wall Street Journal.&quot;

There&#039;s that word again - &quot;unique&quot;. I understand that the WSJ doesn&#039;t carry cartoons and is one of the few papers whose circulation is strong (and even rising).

&quot;Unique&quot; is the word, folks and it doesn&#039;t seem to have sunk in, so I&#039;ll say it again:
What does your paper have that people can&#039;t get at another paper?

We&#039;re cartoonists here, so I&#039;ll keep it cartoon-centred. Why should people buy the New York Times when the strips they feature can be seen in umpteen other papers, whether online, offline, for free or not?

Continuing to keep it cartoon-centred: Where is the next UNIQUE comic strip talent coming from in this syndication-controlled business?

It&#039;s not just editors who can be accused of not listening - there are plenty of cloth-eared cartoonists too. Start thinking outside the box whilst you have the shreds of an actual newspaper industry left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless that paper has a highly desirable content unique to that publication like the Wall Street Journal.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s that word again &#8211; &#8220;unique&#8221;. I understand that the WSJ doesn&#8217;t carry cartoons and is one of the few papers whose circulation is strong (and even rising).</p>
<p>&#8220;Unique&#8221; is the word, folks and it doesn&#8217;t seem to have sunk in, so I&#8217;ll say it again:<br />
What does your paper have that people can&#8217;t get at another paper?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re cartoonists here, so I&#8217;ll keep it cartoon-centred. Why should people buy the New York Times when the strips they feature can be seen in umpteen other papers, whether online, offline, for free or not?</p>
<p>Continuing to keep it cartoon-centred: Where is the next UNIQUE comic strip talent coming from in this syndication-controlled business?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just editors who can be accused of not listening &#8211; there are plenty of cloth-eared cartoonists too. Start thinking outside the box whilst you have the shreds of an actual newspaper industry left.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hallatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hallatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is like saying that pigs could avoid becoming bacon by growing wings.

Not only is it unlikely, but it is too late. With a rise in serious online competition (like the Huffington Post), if the larger papers don&#039;t have  a web presence they will lose that revenue stream to their online competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like saying that pigs could avoid becoming bacon by growing wings.</p>
<p>Not only is it unlikely, but it is too late. With a rise in serious online competition (like the Huffington Post), if the larger papers don&#8217;t have  a web presence they will lose that revenue stream to their online competition.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you have to do on television is switch the channel(or with Tivo fast forward) Television is starting to give away it&#039;s content for free too, see hulu and comedy central... They sell the Daily Show on iTunes, yet you can watch it for free on their website.

Why haven&#039;t Universal Press and United stopped posting their comics on their website? Thus Forcing people to subscribe. Couldn&#039;t they start the change ?  They already have subscription plans. Are they in the same vein as wire services in regards to selling their comics and columns on the web?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do on television is switch the channel(or with Tivo fast forward) Television is starting to give away it&#8217;s content for free too, see hulu and comedy central&#8230; They sell the Daily Show on iTunes, yet you can watch it for free on their website.</p>
<p>Why haven&#8217;t Universal Press and United stopped posting their comics on their website? Thus Forcing people to subscribe. Couldn&#8217;t they start the change ?  They already have subscription plans. Are they in the same vein as wire services in regards to selling their comics and columns on the web?</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality of news on the web is that it has become a commodity product. Readers just don&#039;t value news enough to pay subscription fees in large enough numbers to make it worthwhile. Revenue from ads online aren&#039;t enough to support a full newspaper staff but is more than newspapers can get from readers paying subscriptions to access the web site. Unless that paper has a highly desirable content unique to that publication like the Wall Street Journal.

Which leads to another problem: the number of people who read news (printed and/or online) is shrinking. Older people seem to still be reading news in similar numbers to years past but younger people are not. And I think that trend is a major problem for news operations.

So, would Ted&#039;s ideas lead to a market where a large number of readers would pay for local news they could only obtain from the local paper (print or online)? I suspect not because the pool of people who value and pay for news has been in decline for a long time. How to turn that around is, I believe, the major challenge for news operations. 

Which is, I think, another big problem because newspaper operations are just not set up for the current climate. In general, newspapers are very deliberate and cautious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality of news on the web is that it has become a commodity product. Readers just don&#8217;t value news enough to pay subscription fees in large enough numbers to make it worthwhile. Revenue from ads online aren&#8217;t enough to support a full newspaper staff but is more than newspapers can get from readers paying subscriptions to access the web site. Unless that paper has a highly desirable content unique to that publication like the Wall Street Journal.</p>
<p>Which leads to another problem: the number of people who read news (printed and/or online) is shrinking. Older people seem to still be reading news in similar numbers to years past but younger people are not. And I think that trend is a major problem for news operations.</p>
<p>So, would Ted&#8217;s ideas lead to a market where a large number of readers would pay for local news they could only obtain from the local paper (print or online)? I suspect not because the pool of people who value and pay for news has been in decline for a long time. How to turn that around is, I believe, the major challenge for news operations. </p>
<p>Which is, I think, another big problem because newspaper operations are just not set up for the current climate. In general, newspapers are very deliberate and cautious.</p>
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