Comments on: Tributes or Plagiarism at the New Yorker? http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/ The source for industry news for the professional cartoonist Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:54:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Jack Sparrow http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73920 Jack Sparrow Wed, 28 May 2008 16:07:14 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73920 Here's what I think. The rehab cartoon wasn't copied from any where at least by Harry as on another website it says the idea was conceived by Alex Gregory which was passed on to Harry by the Cartoon Editor. As for the Kirby's drawing, Harry must have used it as reference for monster. But he should have been more careful and made some changes to make it look a bit different. Here’s what I think. The rehab cartoon wasn’t copied from any where at least by Harry as on another website it says the idea was conceived by Alex Gregory which was passed on to Harry by the Cartoon Editor. As for the Kirby’s drawing, Harry must have used it as reference for monster. But he should have been more careful and made some changes to make it look a bit different.

]]> By: Bill Jones http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73906 Bill Jones Wed, 28 May 2008 01:55:38 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73906 doesn't the eagle cartoon clear up any suspicion about the rehab cartoon? i think it does. and that takes away any corroborating effect that the rehab cartoon had in the suggestion that the kirby cartoon was stolen rather than used as bliss said. i hope the eagle cartoon gets as much press as the previous cartoons did. but i doubt it will. and alan, i think putting the headline in question form fans the flames around bliss after it seems he has been cleared. if nothing else, i think the word should be "tribute," rather than "tributes," to indicate the only real question that could possibly still be raised is about the kirby cartoon. doesn’t the eagle cartoon clear up any suspicion about the rehab cartoon? i think it does.

and that takes away any corroborating effect that the rehab cartoon had in the suggestion that the kirby cartoon was stolen rather than used as bliss said.

i hope the eagle cartoon gets as much press as the previous cartoons did. but i doubt it will.

and alan, i think putting the headline in question form fans the flames around bliss after it seems he has been cleared. if nothing else, i think the word should be “tribute,” rather than “tributes,” to indicate the only real question that could possibly still be raised is about the kirby cartoon.

]]> By: Malc McGookin http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73901 Malc McGookin Tue, 27 May 2008 21:25:25 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73901 The fact that the NYer sees a change is necessary is quite significant. This was plagiarism, but through idiocy, not for financial gain or personal glory, you can't tell me that Bliss couldn't have drawn a monster on the side of a building, he merely chose to draw Kirby's odd-looking monster the way other artists would draw Harryhausen's King Kong, i.e. a monster that an audience might already identify with. Bliss deserves criticism, but not for outright plagiarism. He should have known better that the genre figure and set-up he chose to use would need to be credited. The fact that the NYer sees a change is necessary is quite significant. This was plagiarism, but through idiocy, not for financial gain or personal glory, you can’t tell me that Bliss couldn’t have drawn a monster on the side of a building, he merely chose to draw Kirby’s odd-looking monster the way other artists would draw Harryhausen’s King Kong, i.e. a monster that an audience might already identify with.

Bliss deserves criticism, but not for outright plagiarism. He should have known better that the genre figure and set-up he chose to use would need to be credited.

]]> By: J.G. Moore http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73898 J.G. Moore Tue, 27 May 2008 20:28:34 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73898 C'mon. It's bad enough that cartoonists can't A: Get jobs and B: Keep the few we have... BUT C: THIS knucklehead "Prof" is claiming plagiarism?!?! He needs to get a damn life. The New Yorker should have not have even commented on this. Great way to throw the cartoonist under the bus. Gah!!! (rolls eyes)... C’mon. It’s bad enough that cartoonists can’t A: Get jobs and B: Keep the few we have…

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C: THIS knucklehead “Prof” is claiming plagiarism?!?! He needs to get a damn life.

The New Yorker should have not have even commented on this. Great way to throw the cartoonist under the bus. Gah!!! (rolls eyes)…

]]> By: Norm Feuti http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73897 Norm Feuti Tue, 27 May 2008 19:57:56 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/27/tributes-or-plagiarism-at-the-new-yorker/#comment-73897 Is it just me or does it seem like folks are awfully quick to make accusations of plagiarism recently? I don't know, I'd have to pretty certain of someone's guilt before I dropped that bomb. Is it just me or does it seem like folks are awfully quick to make accusations of plagiarism recently?

I don’t know, I’d have to pretty certain of someone’s guilt before I dropped that bomb.

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