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		<title>By: Frank Mariani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Mariani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want funny gay stereotypes (OMG! can it be done???), check out Frank and Steve in Mark Buford&#039;s SCARY GARY. They fit into Mark&#039;s crazy world perfectly and he never forces the humor. Frank and Steve just happen to have green skin. And there is nothing wrong with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want funny gay stereotypes (OMG! can it be done???), check out Frank and Steve in Mark Buford&#8217;s SCARY GARY. They fit into Mark&#8217;s crazy world perfectly and he never forces the humor. Frank and Steve just happen to have green skin. And there is nothing wrong with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Davis</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/19/are-newspapers-ready-for-gay-comic-characters/#comment-115674</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write and illustrate a comic strip that has been published in several &quot;alternative&quot; Papers. It is a gay comic strip and has been jugded on it&#039;s merit. At one point United Features wanted to test it by publishing it for 1 year online with an agreement by me  not to make it avalable to any other publication online and hard copy. I did not take the offer. Till this day my strip has not been picked up by a major syndicate though along with my rejection letters I always find a little note from the Editor stating how well written and funny the strip is and how brave I am and that I shouldnt give up submitting it. Unfortunately folks in the Newspaper world conservatism is the thing and though now we have so many Gay rights in effect more so than we did before the Newspaper world has not caught up, it is at least 40 years behind! Too Bad !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write and illustrate a comic strip that has been published in several &#8220;alternative&#8221; Papers. It is a gay comic strip and has been jugded on it&#8217;s merit. At one point United Features wanted to test it by publishing it for 1 year online with an agreement by me  not to make it avalable to any other publication online and hard copy. I did not take the offer. Till this day my strip has not been picked up by a major syndicate though along with my rejection letters I always find a little note from the Editor stating how well written and funny the strip is and how brave I am and that I shouldnt give up submitting it. Unfortunately folks in the Newspaper world conservatism is the thing and though now we have so many Gay rights in effect more so than we did before the Newspaper world has not caught up, it is at least 40 years behind! Too Bad !</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I like Matt&#039;s answer best from comment number 1. That said, I think it&#039;s sad that this discussion even matters to editors, but it does.

Editors frequently tell me that the next strip they pick up has to have some ethnic diversity to which I respond, &quot;all of the animals in Tundra are black, hispanic, oriental or gay. You just can&#039;t tell because of the fur.&quot; That argument hasn&#039;t worked for me yet though.

I was under the impression that comics were supposed to be funny and offer the readers a break from the often harsh reality of everyday life. Editors should judge a strip by whether it is funny, interesting or thought provoking, not by the charactors color or whether or not they are gay. If a strip is funny, interesting or thought provoking, who cares about the race or sexual preference of the charactors?

I am pretty isolated from the real world up here in Alaska, but are there really readers that are upset because there isn&#039;t enough diversity when it comes to race or sexuality in the comics section?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I like Matt&#8217;s answer best from comment number 1. That said, I think it&#8217;s sad that this discussion even matters to editors, but it does.</p>
<p>Editors frequently tell me that the next strip they pick up has to have some ethnic diversity to which I respond, &#8220;all of the animals in Tundra are black, hispanic, oriental or gay. You just can&#8217;t tell because of the fur.&#8221; That argument hasn&#8217;t worked for me yet though.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that comics were supposed to be funny and offer the readers a break from the often harsh reality of everyday life. Editors should judge a strip by whether it is funny, interesting or thought provoking, not by the charactors color or whether or not they are gay. If a strip is funny, interesting or thought provoking, who cares about the race or sexual preference of the charactors?</p>
<p>I am pretty isolated from the real world up here in Alaska, but are there really readers that are upset because there isn&#8217;t enough diversity when it comes to race or sexuality in the comics section?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Stromoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Stromoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â‰¥â‰¥â‰¥â‰¥Dawn is right. The media always shows gays as being â€œflamersâ€ or â€œover the topâ€. Most gay people are just regulars folks. Itâ€™s a â€œcop outâ€. Itâ€™s easy to stereotype characters (in general), not so easy to just write compelling characters.

There&#039;s a movement within the gay community to downplay the stereotypical &quot;gay &quot; fem character and a bit of a backlash against it. An interesting podcast form NPR This American Life adresses this issue...

http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=46</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â‰¥â‰¥â‰¥â‰¥Dawn is right. The media always shows gays as being â€œflamersâ€ or â€œover the topâ€. Most gay people are just regulars folks. Itâ€™s a â€œcop outâ€. Itâ€™s easy to stereotype characters (in general), not so easy to just write compelling characters.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a movement within the gay community to downplay the stereotypical &#8220;gay &#8221; fem character and a bit of a backlash against it. An interesting podcast form NPR This American Life adresses this issue&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=46" rel="nofollow">http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=46</a></p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/19/are-newspapers-ready-for-gay-comic-characters/#comment-73695</link>
		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
I developed a strip about a little girl, so the &quot;write what you know&quot; angle is ok up to a point.
Basically, if you are a human, write about humans, even if they are wearing animal skins. Garfield is not about a cat.

Whether your characters are gay or not isn&#039;t the point. Adult cartoons have limited markets no matter what the sexual orientation of the characters. Yes, gay themes will be harder to get across to a mainstream audience- even the young and hip can be prejudiced - but the strip that I (a straight man) created about a large bisexual woman wasn&#039;t going to feature in the Poughkeepsie Bugle either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
I developed a strip about a little girl, so the &#8220;write what you know&#8221; angle is ok up to a point.<br />
Basically, if you are a human, write about humans, even if they are wearing animal skins. Garfield is not about a cat.</p>
<p>Whether your characters are gay or not isn&#8217;t the point. Adult cartoons have limited markets no matter what the sexual orientation of the characters. Yes, gay themes will be harder to get across to a mainstream audience- even the young and hip can be prejudiced &#8211; but the strip that I (a straight man) created about a large bisexual woman wasn&#8217;t going to feature in the Poughkeepsie Bugle either.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brousseau</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/19/are-newspapers-ready-for-gay-comic-characters/#comment-73691</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brousseau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what&#039;s been said, with one notable exception: Being gay isn&#039;t just a matter of &quot;sexual activity.&quot; More to the point, it&#039;s about who we love, and while there are lots of syndicated strips that *do* deal with *that* subject, almost all of them do so from a straight perspective. I think that&#039;s another reason Doonesbury and FBOFW can &quot;get away with&quot; having gay characters - their stories are told gradually but matter-of-factly, tastefully, and with relevance to the larger story. Couldn&#039;t other strips do the same?

Now, all of that said, I&#039;ve been drawing a weekly gay comic syndicated to gay newspapers for about 12 years, and, while I do sometimes find it frustrating to have a limited audience, I also like being able to use adult innuendoes and stereotypes when necessary, without fear of angering my editors. I could try my hand at safer, more easily sellable material, but a famous cartoonist once gave me good advice: Write what you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what&#8217;s been said, with one notable exception: Being gay isn&#8217;t just a matter of &#8220;sexual activity.&#8221; More to the point, it&#8217;s about who we love, and while there are lots of syndicated strips that *do* deal with *that* subject, almost all of them do so from a straight perspective. I think that&#8217;s another reason Doonesbury and FBOFW can &#8220;get away with&#8221; having gay characters &#8211; their stories are told gradually but matter-of-factly, tastefully, and with relevance to the larger story. Couldn&#8217;t other strips do the same?</p>
<p>Now, all of that said, I&#8217;ve been drawing a weekly gay comic syndicated to gay newspapers for about 12 years, and, while I do sometimes find it frustrating to have a limited audience, I also like being able to use adult innuendoes and stereotypes when necessary, without fear of angering my editors. I could try my hand at safer, more easily sellable material, but a famous cartoonist once gave me good advice: Write what you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/19/are-newspapers-ready-for-gay-comic-characters/#comment-73689</link>
		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell, surely?

If a strip concerns itself with social issues and a character&#039;s sexuality is pertinent to the storyline or plot, then the character&#039;s sexuality should not even be an issue, it&#039;s a legitimate part of the story.

However, if a writer is so determined to wedge in an irrelevant item regarding someone&#039;s sexuality that it stands out like a dog&#039;s cojones, that is not only bad writing, it&#039;s agenda-setting and as such a total annoyance.

There&#039;s no NEED to man the ramparts or stand as advocate for gays in the comics. The art form and the profession have many bigger problems to contend with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be don&#8217;t ask don&#8217;t tell, surely?</p>
<p>If a strip concerns itself with social issues and a character&#8217;s sexuality is pertinent to the storyline or plot, then the character&#8217;s sexuality should not even be an issue, it&#8217;s a legitimate part of the story.</p>
<p>However, if a writer is so determined to wedge in an irrelevant item regarding someone&#8217;s sexuality that it stands out like a dog&#8217;s cojones, that is not only bad writing, it&#8217;s agenda-setting and as such a total annoyance.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no NEED to man the ramparts or stand as advocate for gays in the comics. The art form and the profession have many bigger problems to contend with.</p>
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		<title>By: JGM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn is right.  The media always shows gays as being &quot;flamers&quot; or &quot;over the top&quot;. Most gay people are just regulars folks.  It&#039;s a &quot;cop out&quot;.  It&#039;s easy to stereotype characters (in general), not so easy to just write compelling characters. 

Ellen seems &quot;do okay&quot; as a gay media mogul.
She is funny and people like her. 

I think as more &quot;well written&quot; gay characters emerge in the media things will get better over time.  I think gays, blacks, hispanics, jews, indians, asians, etc... will alWAYS get &quot;dissed&quot; by the media. 

This is one reason the media (TV, newspapers, dead tree comics(everything except &quot;the Internets&quot;) is having trouble keeping viewership.

People don&#039;t like to watch &quot;themselves&quot; get &quot;dissed&quot; by the &quot;media&quot;.  

&quot;Gay&quot; themed media seems to do better on cable. Unfortanatly we cartoonist don&#039;t have a &quot;cable&quot; like alternative ($an$ webcomic$).

I think this article just shows how limiting &quot;dead tree comics&quot; are for anyone who wants to &quot;think outside of the box&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn is right.  The media always shows gays as being &#8220;flamers&#8221; or &#8220;over the top&#8221;. Most gay people are just regulars folks.  It&#8217;s a &#8220;cop out&#8221;.  It&#8217;s easy to stereotype characters (in general), not so easy to just write compelling characters. </p>
<p>Ellen seems &#8220;do okay&#8221; as a gay media mogul.<br />
She is funny and people like her. </p>
<p>I think as more &#8220;well written&#8221; gay characters emerge in the media things will get better over time.  I think gays, blacks, hispanics, jews, indians, asians, etc&#8230; will alWAYS get &#8220;dissed&#8221; by the media. </p>
<p>This is one reason the media (TV, newspapers, dead tree comics(everything except &#8220;the Internets&#8221;) is having trouble keeping viewership.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t like to watch &#8220;themselves&#8221; get &#8220;dissed&#8221; by the &#8220;media&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Gay&#8221; themed media seems to do better on cable. Unfortanatly we cartoonist don&#8217;t have a &#8220;cable&#8221; like alternative ($an$ webcomic$).</p>
<p>I think this article just shows how limiting &#8220;dead tree comics&#8221; are for anyone who wants to &#8220;think outside of the box&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Garey Mckee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garey Mckee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn, I guess that was the point I was trying to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn, I guess that was the point I was trying to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krainacker</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/05/19/are-newspapers-ready-for-gay-comic-characters/#comment-73683</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krainacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main characters in &quot;The Meaning of Lila&quot; is gay, as is Isaac from &quot;Clear Blue Water&quot;.  Also Edda&#039;s roommate in &quot;9 Chickweed Lane&quot;.  All of these characters have their own flair and humor independant of their sexuality.  (Especially Isaac, who often embodies some sort of superhero for the strip.)  As for &quot;Jane&#039;s World&quot;, I think it may have failed because the story lines are often confused.  I still try to read it everyday, but often have a hard time following what is happening.
Do we need a strip with only gay characters?  So long as it&#039;s funny, witty and engaging, I&#039;ll be a fan.  Would it catch on?  Hard to say in today&#039;s world.
But sexuality, like race, religion or any of a number of other &quot;isms&quot; shouldn&#039;t really matter in the comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main characters in &#8220;The Meaning of Lila&#8221; is gay, as is Isaac from &#8220;Clear Blue Water&#8221;.  Also Edda&#8217;s roommate in &#8220;9 Chickweed Lane&#8221;.  All of these characters have their own flair and humor independant of their sexuality.  (Especially Isaac, who often embodies some sort of superhero for the strip.)  As for &#8220;Jane&#8217;s World&#8221;, I think it may have failed because the story lines are often confused.  I still try to read it everyday, but often have a hard time following what is happening.<br />
Do we need a strip with only gay characters?  So long as it&#8217;s funny, witty and engaging, I&#8217;ll be a fan.  Would it catch on?  Hard to say in today&#8217;s world.<br />
But sexuality, like race, religion or any of a number of other &#8220;isms&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t really matter in the comics.</p>
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