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	<title>Comments on: Judge Parker reinstated in Scranton PA paper</title>
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		<title>By: Quint Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quint Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and that will be another medium. Comics will not be able to maintain the current business model to be successful, they will evolve into another form.

What that is, I don&#039;t believe anyone knows right now....but printed newspapers will be a relic of the past. News and entertainment wiil be delivered in another form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and that will be another medium. Comics will not be able to maintain the current business model to be successful, they will evolve into another form.</p>
<p>What that is, I don&#8217;t believe anyone knows right now&#8230;.but printed newspapers will be a relic of the past. News and entertainment wiil be delivered in another form.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they forecast the death of radio too, but it will also never die, merely evolve.

This has all been said before, but radio didn&#039;t kill theatre, neither did TV, indeed they are still symbiotic - many TV shows are recorded in theatres
There will always be a demand for news and features you can carry with you. Lightweight, flexible and with no need to re-charge batteries, newspapers can also be read in direct sunlight and don&#039;t break when you drop them.

I repeat: Newspapers will cotton on quite soon to the fact that those who sound the death knell of papers are premature and discover that there&#039;s a way to get readers AND attract sponsors.

That way is to offer them something sexy and/or exciting they can&#039;t get in other media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they forecast the death of radio too, but it will also never die, merely evolve.</p>
<p>This has all been said before, but radio didn&#8217;t kill theatre, neither did TV, indeed they are still symbiotic &#8211; many TV shows are recorded in theatres<br />
There will always be a demand for news and features you can carry with you. Lightweight, flexible and with no need to re-charge batteries, newspapers can also be read in direct sunlight and don&#8217;t break when you drop them.</p>
<p>I repeat: Newspapers will cotton on quite soon to the fact that those who sound the death knell of papers are premature and discover that there&#8217;s a way to get readers AND attract sponsors.</p>
<p>That way is to offer them something sexy and/or exciting they can&#8217;t get in other media.</p>
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		<title>By: Quint Nelson</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/23/judge-parker-reinstated-in-scranton-pa-paper/#comment-68937</link>
		<dc:creator>Quint Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, most of the posters on this topic are in denial. The newspaper industry is dying. Sadly, about twenty years from now, they will be gone. It&#039;s plainly obvious to anyone who knows the industry. There may be a web site named &quot;The New York Times&quot;, but the print product will be a memory.

So far in 2008, revenues at most papers are already seeing a decrease of year-to-date numbers in excess of 15%, and that&#039;s from 2007 revenues, which was a horrible year. The decline will continue, so the content will also shrink as the newspaper page counts shrink. The comics will also shrink.

Heck, the even the size of most papers are shrinking. Just compare the actual size a your local paper now to what it was two years ago! Publishers are trying to save money by using less newsprint.

There is no conspiracy between newspapers and the syndicates. In fact, just like all vendors to the newspaper industry, the syndicates are being brutalized by budget cuts. The squeeze is on and some syndicates will probably fail or merge in the future. 

Just look at recent cuts at the Houston Chronicle. Believe me, there will be more to follow.

So here&#039;s a reality check, editors are living in fear and they are in a panic. Recently, both the LA Times and San Francisco Chronicle dumped their editors in days of one another. The meat axe will continue to drop, and with fear permeating newsrooms across the country, editors will not be bold in adding new strips. 

In fact, they will be desperate to please the few newspaper readers they have left. Unfortunately, these are the people who love Judge Parker and Mary Worth, while hating Get Fuzzy and Non-Sequitur. Do I like it? No, but it is today&#039;s reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, most of the posters on this topic are in denial. The newspaper industry is dying. Sadly, about twenty years from now, they will be gone. It&#8217;s plainly obvious to anyone who knows the industry. There may be a web site named &#8220;The New York Times&#8221;, but the print product will be a memory.</p>
<p>So far in 2008, revenues at most papers are already seeing a decrease of year-to-date numbers in excess of 15%, and that&#8217;s from 2007 revenues, which was a horrible year. The decline will continue, so the content will also shrink as the newspaper page counts shrink. The comics will also shrink.</p>
<p>Heck, the even the size of most papers are shrinking. Just compare the actual size a your local paper now to what it was two years ago! Publishers are trying to save money by using less newsprint.</p>
<p>There is no conspiracy between newspapers and the syndicates. In fact, just like all vendors to the newspaper industry, the syndicates are being brutalized by budget cuts. The squeeze is on and some syndicates will probably fail or merge in the future. </p>
<p>Just look at recent cuts at the Houston Chronicle. Believe me, there will be more to follow.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a reality check, editors are living in fear and they are in a panic. Recently, both the LA Times and San Francisco Chronicle dumped their editors in days of one another. The meat axe will continue to drop, and with fear permeating newsrooms across the country, editors will not be bold in adding new strips. </p>
<p>In fact, they will be desperate to please the few newspaper readers they have left. Unfortunately, these are the people who love Judge Parker and Mary Worth, while hating Get Fuzzy and Non-Sequitur. Do I like it? No, but it is today&#8217;s reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hardiman</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/23/judge-parker-reinstated-in-scranton-pa-paper/#comment-68928</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hardiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sadly, the only way a newspaper really knows how many readers a comic has is (a) the number of people who complain about it, or (b) the number of people who complain when it gets cancelled.&quot;

Oddly enough, TV networks don&#039;t know how many people are watching their shows, really.  Their only source of information is the Nielsen company, which takes the number of people with a Nielsen box attached to their TV who were watching the show and then multiplies that number by something.

&quot;Besides, this system doesnâ€™t allow for something like â€œKrazy Kat,â€ which never had many readers when it was running, but it was beloved of the syndicateâ€™s owner, so he nurtured it. Today itâ€™s probably the single most influential comic in history in terms of the number of cartoonists who were inspired by it.&quot;

Unfortunately this is true.  I really enjoy reading &quot;Krazy Kat&quot; and I think it&#039;s one of the greatest comic strips in history, if not the greatest.  And this radical idea wouldn&#039;t allow for that sort of strip surviving.  Maybe the way to secure the survival of such a strip would be to leave all the decisions about who gets the axe to the editors.  But that just brings us back to our original topic of discussion, &quot;Editors suck&quot; vs. &quot;Editors donâ€™t suck, they just operate the system thatâ€™s existed for over 80 years without question.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sadly, the only way a newspaper really knows how many readers a comic has is (a) the number of people who complain about it, or (b) the number of people who complain when it gets cancelled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oddly enough, TV networks don&#8217;t know how many people are watching their shows, really.  Their only source of information is the Nielsen company, which takes the number of people with a Nielsen box attached to their TV who were watching the show and then multiplies that number by something.</p>
<p>&#8220;Besides, this system doesnâ€™t allow for something like â€œKrazy Kat,â€ which never had many readers when it was running, but it was beloved of the syndicateâ€™s owner, so he nurtured it. Today itâ€™s probably the single most influential comic in history in terms of the number of cartoonists who were inspired by it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately this is true.  I really enjoy reading &#8220;Krazy Kat&#8221; and I think it&#8217;s one of the greatest comic strips in history, if not the greatest.  And this radical idea wouldn&#8217;t allow for that sort of strip surviving.  Maybe the way to secure the survival of such a strip would be to leave all the decisions about who gets the axe to the editors.  But that just brings us back to our original topic of discussion, &#8220;Editors suck&#8221; vs. &#8220;Editors donâ€™t suck, they just operate the system thatâ€™s existed for over 80 years without question.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Chase</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/23/judge-parker-reinstated-in-scranton-pa-paper/#comment-68927</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on topic...

Judge Parker...yes it was reinstated.  And, yes, there may have only been a handful that complained to get it back into the paper.

But, you are decrying it&#039;s reinstatement like it didn&#039;t deserve to get back into the Scranton paper.   Why?   Maybe some readers still like the comic.   It&#039;s not like Woody Wilson and Eduardo Barreto are doing a crappy job with it.  Now, it likely isn&#039;t for everyone.  And, yes, it&#039;s readers are likely older.  But, they certainly have a voice too.

If anything decry the Editor who couldn&#039;t figure out how to keep Judge Parker and add something new and fresh. For most Editors, everything gets into the &quot;to hard pile&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on topic&#8230;</p>
<p>Judge Parker&#8230;yes it was reinstated.  And, yes, there may have only been a handful that complained to get it back into the paper.</p>
<p>But, you are decrying it&#8217;s reinstatement like it didn&#8217;t deserve to get back into the Scranton paper.   Why?   Maybe some readers still like the comic.   It&#8217;s not like Woody Wilson and Eduardo Barreto are doing a crappy job with it.  Now, it likely isn&#8217;t for everyone.  And, yes, it&#8217;s readers are likely older.  But, they certainly have a voice too.</p>
<p>If anything decry the Editor who couldn&#8217;t figure out how to keep Judge Parker and add something new and fresh. For most Editors, everything gets into the &#8220;to hard pile&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lefitte</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local-only cartoonist is fine in theory and it&#039;s pretty much the way the editorial cartoon market works ... isn&#039;t it? Not necessarily a growth industry. But if you only have one local comic strip, then you&#039;re left with one or two strips per paper. Is that the proposition? If so, no thanks to this comics fan.  You&#039;re also on the chopping block when times are bad. Get cancelled in one paper and you&#039;re at the unemployment office. 

And I&#039;d guess Andy Capp&#039;s made more in traditional syndication than from his anchor paper over the years. You said he was famous in the country when he made the deal ... what about those who aren&#039;t famous?

 The UK is also dominated by national newspapers that run very few comics per paper. The US has a few big ones but the overall market share is  more concentrated in the locals and even the smallest daily paper in the States runs a page of comics. Comparing the two is apples and screwdrivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local-only cartoonist is fine in theory and it&#8217;s pretty much the way the editorial cartoon market works &#8230; isn&#8217;t it? Not necessarily a growth industry. But if you only have one local comic strip, then you&#8217;re left with one or two strips per paper. Is that the proposition? If so, no thanks to this comics fan.  You&#8217;re also on the chopping block when times are bad. Get cancelled in one paper and you&#8217;re at the unemployment office. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;d guess Andy Capp&#8217;s made more in traditional syndication than from his anchor paper over the years. You said he was famous in the country when he made the deal &#8230; what about those who aren&#8217;t famous?</p>
<p> The UK is also dominated by national newspapers that run very few comics per paper. The US has a few big ones but the overall market share is  more concentrated in the locals and even the smallest daily paper in the States runs a page of comics. Comparing the two is apples and screwdrivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley Miller</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/23/judge-parker-reinstated-in-scranton-pa-paper/#comment-68914</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a fundamental problem you guys have here in discussing comics in regard to newspapers and syndicates... you&#039;re all employing logic, reason, common sense and even sound business. This is a common mistake, as that ship sailed on newspapers all that long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a fundamental problem you guys have here in discussing comics in regard to newspapers and syndicates&#8230; you&#8217;re all employing logic, reason, common sense and even sound business. This is a common mistake, as that ship sailed on newspapers all that long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Malc McGookin</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/23/judge-parker-reinstated-in-scranton-pa-paper/#comment-68912</link>
		<dc:creator>Malc McGookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you make two conflicting points. Firstly you say that a better &quot;gatekeeper&quot; analogy would be a Hollywood agent, then say that a cartoonists  union would be ineffectual.

Yet Actors Equity and the Writers Guild of America are very effectual unions.

I&#039;m talking about principles here. A cartoonists union could work in principle, there&#039;s nothing to stop it other than the lack of cojones of cartoonists themselves (with apologies to female cartoonists).

Fact is, the syndicate system has been around for a long time, but it&#039;s not the only system. In the UK, strips are featured in a one-paper deal, because the biggest papers are national. Thus Andy Capp is only featured in The Daily Mirror, but its creator Reg Smythe was famous nationally and extremely well paid.

For top rate cartoonists to be able to subvert the criminally inept US syndication system they will need to go talk to the big paper editors one-on-one and make them an attractive deal.
A Philly paper (for instance) might go for a first class feature which features Philly landmarks and personalities.
It also might pay well over the syndicate rate for that work.
The net is the key to the independent cartoonist&#039;s future, but cartoonists need regular income to make them sit at a drawing board all day creating new work.
That income could certainly come from a one-paper deal they carved out themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you make two conflicting points. Firstly you say that a better &#8220;gatekeeper&#8221; analogy would be a Hollywood agent, then say that a cartoonists  union would be ineffectual.</p>
<p>Yet Actors Equity and the Writers Guild of America are very effectual unions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking about principles here. A cartoonists union could work in principle, there&#8217;s nothing to stop it other than the lack of cojones of cartoonists themselves (with apologies to female cartoonists).</p>
<p>Fact is, the syndicate system has been around for a long time, but it&#8217;s not the only system. In the UK, strips are featured in a one-paper deal, because the biggest papers are national. Thus Andy Capp is only featured in The Daily Mirror, but its creator Reg Smythe was famous nationally and extremely well paid.</p>
<p>For top rate cartoonists to be able to subvert the criminally inept US syndication system they will need to go talk to the big paper editors one-on-one and make them an attractive deal.<br />
A Philly paper (for instance) might go for a first class feature which features Philly landmarks and personalities.<br />
It also might pay well over the syndicate rate for that work.<br />
The net is the key to the independent cartoonist&#8217;s future, but cartoonists need regular income to make them sit at a drawing board all day creating new work.<br />
That income could certainly come from a one-paper deal they carved out themselves</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syndicates exist as long as there is a market... The newspaper market is just a fragment of what it used to be - hopefully, these same syndicates see the writing on the wall and are actively trying to find a way to make the internet pay a living wage, but I doubt it. Proof of how moribund they are is in the &quot;pudding&quot; of their non-accomplishments so far... I really hope someone thinks of something, fast, &#039;cause less opportunity, less wages, and less strips is NOT the wave of the future, it&#039;s NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syndicates exist as long as there is a market&#8230; The newspaper market is just a fragment of what it used to be &#8211; hopefully, these same syndicates see the writing on the wall and are actively trying to find a way to make the internet pay a living wage, but I doubt it. Proof of how moribund they are is in the &#8220;pudding&#8221; of their non-accomplishments so far&#8230; I really hope someone thinks of something, fast, &#8217;cause less opportunity, less wages, and less strips is NOT the wave of the future, it&#8217;s NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Garey Mckee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garey Mckee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

The words &quot;radical&quot; and &quot;newspaper&quot; just don&#039;t go together LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The words &#8220;radical&#8221; and &#8220;newspaper&#8221; just don&#8217;t go together LOL!</p>
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