Comments on: Animated editorial cartoons heading for tipping point? http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/ The source for industry news for the professional cartoonist Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:23:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Tom Wood http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-75966 Tom Wood Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:33 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-75966 Urgh, actually, those are the NeoSpeech voices. None of those companies seem too interested in this market. They are focused on telephone help using synthetic voices. TW Urgh, actually, those are the NeoSpeech voices. None of those companies seem too interested in this market. They are focused on telephone help using synthetic voices.

TW

]]> By: Tom Wood http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-75963 Tom Wood Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:52:53 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-75963 Thanks J. G.! Sorry for not responding earlier, I got distracted. I'm using LightWave for the 3D, then doing some compositing in Mirage (now TVPaint) and editing in VT4 (aka Video Toaster). Yes, those are the AT&T voices for the characters. I tried to negotiate a commercial license with them, and brickwalled. I rethought my approach, and now there's a new incarnation at: http://wendelbrume.com I'm still finding my voice, but I think this will work out better. TW Thanks J. G.!

Sorry for not responding earlier, I got distracted.

I’m using LightWave for the 3D, then doing some compositing in Mirage (now TVPaint) and editing in VT4 (aka Video Toaster). Yes, those are the AT&T voices for the characters. I tried to negotiate a commercial license with them, and brickwalled.

I rethought my approach, and now there’s a new incarnation at:

http://wendelbrume.com

I’m still finding my voice, but I think this will work out better.

TW

]]> By: J.G. Moore http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-73068 J.G. Moore Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:43:47 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-73068 Tom, Your animations are funny as hell. What 3D app are you using? Are those the AT&T Naturally Speaking voice fonts? How long did it take to do those cartoons? Good stuff. I did laugh while watching them. :-) Ann Telnaes animation are good. She should get a preamp and a Shure microphone. She could also use winamp and the pacemaker plugin to get more out of the voices. That would make the audio better and alow her to pitch a female voice into a male voice. That way she could do most of the voice work herself. Other than the sound I like her work. She has good pacing and the artwork is tops. I wonder how long it takes her to complete the animated work. Tom,

Your animations are funny as hell. What 3D app are you using? Are those the AT&T Naturally Speaking voice fonts? How long did it take to do those cartoons? Good stuff. I did laugh while watching them. :-)

Ann Telnaes animation are good. She should get a preamp and a Shure microphone. She could also use winamp and the pacemaker plugin to get more out of the voices. That would make the audio better and alow her to pitch a female voice into a male voice.

That way she could do most of the voice work herself.

Other than the sound I like her work. She has good pacing and the artwork is tops. I wonder how long it takes her to complete the animated work.

]]> By: Tom Wood http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68608 Tom Wood Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:38:42 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68608 Hey folks, You've never heard of me and I'm a total newcomer to the business, but I've been trying my hand at animated editorial cartoons for a little bit. You can see my attempt at my website: www.moonbatwingnut.com This method grew out of an earlier attempt to sell a similar concept to Adult Swim. I can produce a two minute cartoon in about four hours, so I can work within the 24 hour news cycle. I'm specifically focused on the political blogs, hence the title of the website. I know traditional animators will dislike my shortcut method using fades between pre-rendered clips, but I wanted to point out that there are other ways to do this besides Flash. A similar technique would work with a series of pre-rendered drawn images as well. Tom Wood Hey folks,

You’ve never heard of me and I’m a total newcomer to the business, but I’ve been trying my hand at animated editorial cartoons for a little bit. You can see my attempt at my website: http://www.moonbatwingnut.com

This method grew out of an earlier attempt to sell a similar concept to Adult Swim. I can produce a two minute cartoon in about four hours, so I can work within the 24 hour news cycle. I’m specifically focused on the political blogs, hence the title of the website.

I know traditional animators will dislike my shortcut method using fades between pre-rendered clips, but I wanted to point out that there are other ways to do this besides Flash. A similar technique would work with a series of pre-rendered drawn images as well.

Tom Wood

]]> By: Matt Bors http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68497 Matt Bors Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:37:20 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68497 "For my money, instead animated content for the sake of animated content, I’d rather see tits on Matt Bors." How much money you got? “For my money, instead animated content for the sake of animated content, I’d rather see tits on Matt Bors.”

How much money you got?

]]> By: Brian Fairrington http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68478 Brian Fairrington Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:07:32 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68478 Interesting point made above about animations adding to the workload. I recently heard a story about Mike Shelton, the longtime editorial cartoonist at the Orange County Register who was let go from his job last year. I heard he started doing animations for the newspaper on his own time and after a while the publisher got spoiled on them wanted it to be part of his job description....and for no extra money. When he butted heads with the powers that be over it they canned him. Interesting point made above about animations adding to the workload. I recently heard a story about Mike Shelton, the longtime editorial cartoonist at the Orange County Register who was let go from his job last year.

I heard he started doing animations for the newspaper on his own time and after a while the publisher got spoiled on them wanted it to be part of his job description….and for no extra money. When he butted heads with the powers that be over it they canned him.

]]> By: Mike Lester http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68476 Mike Lester Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:27:31 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68476 After I recognized a couple of the NY'r animations and remembered their static cartoon originals, one phrase came to mind, "tits on a boar". The fascination w/ the moving editorial cartoon as Alan pointed out, may or may not be at a tipping point but if it is, I contend it is a reaction to the newspaper industry economy and a desperate reaction at that. For my money, instead animated content for the sake of animated content, I'd rather see tits on Matt Bors. After I recognized a couple of the NY’r animations and remembered their static cartoon originals, one phrase came to mind, “tits on a boar”.

The fascination w/ the moving editorial cartoon as Alan pointed out, may or may not be at a tipping point but if it is, I contend it is a reaction to the newspaper industry economy and a desperate reaction at that.

For my money, instead animated content for the sake of animated content, I’d rather see tits on Matt Bors.

]]> By: Rich Diesslin http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68475 Rich Diesslin Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:06:52 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68475 Matt, you are absolutely right. Wow, those are bad with the exception of Shannon. It seems that the animation lends nothing that a single gag line won't deliver, at least they way they are doing it. Perhaps a animating a strip makes more sense than trying to animate a single panel. A strip is at least a storyboard requiring set-up and delivery. Matt, you are absolutely right. Wow, those are bad with the exception of Shannon. It seems that the animation lends nothing that a single gag line won’t deliver, at least they way they are doing it. Perhaps a animating a strip makes more sense than trying to animate a single panel. A strip is at least a storyboard requiring set-up and delivery.

]]> By: Matt Bors http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68466 Matt Bors Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:03:05 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68466 Has anyone seen the New Yorker's animated cartoons? They have an animated gag panel on their home page now. http://www.newyorker.com/ If there's a worse use of animation, I've yet to see it. gag panels are supposed to be quickly read...the 10 second animations add nothing and, I would say, detract from it. Has anyone seen the New Yorker’s animated cartoons? They have an animated gag panel on their home page now.
http://www.newyorker.com/

If there’s a worse use of animation, I’ve yet to see it. gag panels are supposed to be quickly read…the 10 second animations add nothing and, I would say, detract from it.

]]> By: Matt Bors http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68465 Matt Bors Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:57:09 +0000 http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2008/01/11/animated-editorial-cartoons-heading-for-tipping-point/#comment-68465 Here's a question: Is anyone getting paid to do these? I imagine most of the staffers who do them now are simply adding to their workload, probably under pressure that they now have to if they want to be considered for a Pulitzer. "demand for editorial shorts could open up a whole new market as there are more online news media outlets than print papers" Do any of these places have enough money to pay someone for the time it takes to create one of these? Most papers that put their entire paper online are simply subsidizing that with money they get from people who actually pay for the print paper. Doing something because it may go viral doesn't generate revenue. The previous commenter about JibJab is right--they don't make money from those. Here’s a question: Is anyone getting paid to do these? I imagine most of the staffers who do them now are simply adding to their workload, probably under pressure that they now have to if they want to be considered for a Pulitzer.

“demand for editorial shorts could open up a whole new market as there are more online news media outlets than print papers”

Do any of these places have enough money to pay someone for the time it takes to create one of these? Most papers that put their entire paper online are simply subsidizing that with money they get from people who actually pay for the print paper. Doing something because it may go viral doesn’t generate revenue. The previous commenter about JibJab is right–they don’t make money from those.

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