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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2007/09/14/another-college-cartoon-draws-controversy/#comment-62728</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at the very least, the cartoonist should be identified. writers are required to identify themselves to show accountibility, why should a cartoonist be exempt?

also, if he has no affiliation with the univeristy, which has been reported by the editor, why was the strip featured in a college-run paper?

clearly, by remaining anonymous and the editor not requiring him to idenitify himself, they knew exactly what they were doing.

this isn&#039;t the first time this editor has been under fire for obscenely offensive material and it doesn&#039;t suprise me in the slightest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at the very least, the cartoonist should be identified. writers are required to identify themselves to show accountibility, why should a cartoonist be exempt?</p>
<p>also, if he has no affiliation with the univeristy, which has been reported by the editor, why was the strip featured in a college-run paper?</p>
<p>clearly, by remaining anonymous and the editor not requiring him to idenitify himself, they knew exactly what they were doing.</p>
<p>this isn&#8217;t the first time this editor has been under fire for obscenely offensive material and it doesn&#8217;t suprise me in the slightest.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lager</title>
		<link>http://dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2007/09/14/another-college-cartoon-draws-controversy/#comment-62696</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Lager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing that&#039;s being left out of this is that humor has de-evolved to the point that there&#039;s very little creativity these days. &quot;Shock &amp; Awe&quot; is not a long lasting method for producing funny. I don&#039;t know, to me it just seems that being vulgar or shocking is just the product of the uncreative person.

I grok that, perhaps, this artist was reaching for absurdity. But bathroom humor is crass, not absurd. So is the unnecessary use of &quot;Latina&quot;. Does her ethnicity make it more shocking? No, it  misdirects. First, you&#039;re shocked at the idea of urinating on people... no, no... kidnapping people for the purpose of humiliation. Add in the hot topic issue of immigration and what you&#039;ve got is a miasma of infantile rudeness that&#039;ll shock the &#039;rents and the grand&#039;rents because what they find funny must be boring because it required thinking and attention spans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing that&#8217;s being left out of this is that humor has de-evolved to the point that there&#8217;s very little creativity these days. &#8220;Shock &amp; Awe&#8221; is not a long lasting method for producing funny. I don&#8217;t know, to me it just seems that being vulgar or shocking is just the product of the uncreative person.</p>
<p>I grok that, perhaps, this artist was reaching for absurdity. But bathroom humor is crass, not absurd. So is the unnecessary use of &#8220;Latina&#8221;. Does her ethnicity make it more shocking? No, it  misdirects. First, you&#8217;re shocked at the idea of urinating on people&#8230; no, no&#8230; kidnapping people for the purpose of humiliation. Add in the hot topic issue of immigration and what you&#8217;ve got is a miasma of infantile rudeness that&#8217;ll shock the &#8216;rents and the grand&#8217;rents because what they find funny must be boring because it required thinking and attention spans.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew said, &quot;...I actually liked the cartoon.&quot;

I guess you and R. Kelly both can appreciate the comedic irony of grown men peeing on little girls. 

I agree with Derek Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew said, &#8220;&#8230;I actually liked the cartoon.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you and R. Kelly both can appreciate the comedic irony of grown men peeing on little girls. </p>
<p>I agree with Derek Johnson.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my 2 cents but the comic reads like an R Kelly rap sheet.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Vella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Vella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;College should be a time for making mistakes that can be recovered from.&quot;

I agree with Barry, But I also think they should LEARN from their mistakes, Right??

This comic is not The Recorder&#039;s first brush with public outrage. Last February, an opinion piece was published detailing how less attractive and overweight women &quot;may benefit&quot; from being raped. The author of that piece resigned as the paper&#039;s writer, The school board apologized on his behalf, and Rowan went back to work as editor. Fast forward to September and now Rowan is again facing the school board, who is &quot;appalled by the stunning lack of sensitivity and awareness displayed by Mark Rowan&quot; (this is a quote from a letter written by Lawrence D. McHugh, Chairman, Board of Trustees and CCSU President Jack Miller) If these guys had to get involved, you just know Rowen should just apologized already.

&quot;I donâ€™t think people should be expelled from college for publishing things that other people donâ€™t like.&quot;

I also agree with Matt. I didn&#039;t say the editor SHOULD be expelled, I said they should &quot;use the threat of expulsion&quot;, if that doesn&#039;t work maybe he should step down as editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;College should be a time for making mistakes that can be recovered from.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Barry, But I also think they should LEARN from their mistakes, Right??</p>
<p>This comic is not The Recorder&#8217;s first brush with public outrage. Last February, an opinion piece was published detailing how less attractive and overweight women &#8220;may benefit&#8221; from being raped. The author of that piece resigned as the paper&#8217;s writer, The school board apologized on his behalf, and Rowan went back to work as editor. Fast forward to September and now Rowan is again facing the school board, who is &#8220;appalled by the stunning lack of sensitivity and awareness displayed by Mark Rowan&#8221; (this is a quote from a letter written by Lawrence D. McHugh, Chairman, Board of Trustees and CCSU President Jack Miller) If these guys had to get involved, you just know Rowen should just apologized already.</p>
<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t think people should be expelled from college for publishing things that other people donâ€™t like.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also agree with Matt. I didn&#8217;t say the editor SHOULD be expelled, I said they should &#8220;use the threat of expulsion&#8221;, if that doesn&#8217;t work maybe he should step down as editor.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Deutsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Matt. College should be a time for making mistakes that can be recovered from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Matt. College should be a time for making mistakes that can be recovered from.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe not â€œimprisonmentâ€ Matt, but how about the threat of being Expelled.&quot;

I don&#039;t think people should be expelled from college for publishing things that other people don&#039;t like. If the publisher has a problem with the editorial direction of the paper, they should fire the editor and find a new one that fits with what they want.

&quot;I donâ€™t know, Matt, once the cartoonistâ€™s name is exposed, maybe editors or syndications wouldnâ€™t want to deal with a cartoonist thatâ€™ll make them look bad.&quot;

I doubt that artist will ever produce anything that deserves a syndication deal, but I don&#039;t share your desire to start blacklisting people from the industry based on distasteful cartoons they published in college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe not â€œimprisonmentâ€ Matt, but how about the threat of being Expelled.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think people should be expelled from college for publishing things that other people don&#8217;t like. If the publisher has a problem with the editorial direction of the paper, they should fire the editor and find a new one that fits with what they want.</p>
<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t know, Matt, once the cartoonistâ€™s name is exposed, maybe editors or syndications wouldnâ€™t want to deal with a cartoonist thatâ€™ll make them look bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt that artist will ever produce anything that deserves a syndication deal, but I don&#8217;t share your desire to start blacklisting people from the industry based on distasteful cartoons they published in college.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Deutsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who&#039;d like to avoid downloading the pdf file, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bp2.blogger.com/__g6BXI8pEwQ/RuvsXBL1ETI/AAAAAAAAAAU/m0EIu0_6qnM/s1600-h/polydongs.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the &quot;Polydongs&quot; cartoon we&#039;re discussing can also be viewed online here&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://kitty-advanced.livejournal.com/257579.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

A few comments.

1) I think what&#039;s behind this cartoon is likely the racism and misogyny of self-centered (most likely white male) egotism, not the racism and misogyny of animus towards Latinas. 

In other words, the cartoonist didn&#039;t draw this cartoon because he (or she) personally loathes Latinos, but because he wanted to make fun of &quot;political correctness&quot; by creating the least &quot;politically correct&quot; cartoon he could come up with.

That doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not racist and misogynistic -- as I&#039;ve often said (most recently &lt;a href=&quot;http://sylvester.typepad.com/blog/2007/09/earlier-this-mo.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), being bigoted doesn&#039;t require animus.  In the case of this cartoon, while I believe that the cartoonist&#039;s intention was to tweak &quot;PC&quot; sensibilities, choosing to do so in this way shows a callous indifference for the feelings of readers who aren&#039;t white men that is itself so enormous that it amounts to misogyny and racism.

2) Wow, are some of the people defending this cartoon &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogoftruth.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/offensive-maybe-racist-no/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stupid&lt;/a&gt;.

3) I don&#039;t want to see the cartoonist (or editor) formally punished or sanctioned. I think the outcry and widespread criticism are the appropriate response; and I hope that the activism leads to positive steps like the creation and funding of an alternative newspaper.

4) I&#039;m made nervous by the folks asking the college administration to step in and fire the editor/defund the newspaper, because I think these practices, if generally accepted, will be used against student newspapers that take radical positions or criticize college administrations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who&#8217;d like to avoid downloading the pdf file, <a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/__g6BXI8pEwQ/RuvsXBL1ETI/AAAAAAAAAAU/m0EIu0_6qnM/s1600-h/polydongs.jpg" rel="nofollow">the &#8220;Polydongs&#8221; cartoon we&#8217;re discussing can also be viewed online here</a>, or <a href="http://kitty-advanced.livejournal.com/257579.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>A few comments.</p>
<p>1) I think what&#8217;s behind this cartoon is likely the racism and misogyny of self-centered (most likely white male) egotism, not the racism and misogyny of animus towards Latinas. </p>
<p>In other words, the cartoonist didn&#8217;t draw this cartoon because he (or she) personally loathes Latinos, but because he wanted to make fun of &#8220;political correctness&#8221; by creating the least &#8220;politically correct&#8221; cartoon he could come up with.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not racist and misogynistic &#8212; as I&#8217;ve often said (most recently <a href="http://sylvester.typepad.com/blog/2007/09/earlier-this-mo.html#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a>), being bigoted doesn&#8217;t require animus.  In the case of this cartoon, while I believe that the cartoonist&#8217;s intention was to tweak &#8220;PC&#8221; sensibilities, choosing to do so in this way shows a callous indifference for the feelings of readers who aren&#8217;t white men that is itself so enormous that it amounts to misogyny and racism.</p>
<p>2) Wow, are some of the people defending this cartoon <a href="http://blogoftruth.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/offensive-maybe-racist-no/" rel="nofollow">stupid</a>.</p>
<p>3) I don&#8217;t want to see the cartoonist (or editor) formally punished or sanctioned. I think the outcry and widespread criticism are the appropriate response; and I hope that the activism leads to positive steps like the creation and funding of an alternative newspaper.</p>
<p>4) I&#8217;m made nervous by the folks asking the college administration to step in and fire the editor/defund the newspaper, because I think these practices, if generally accepted, will be used against student newspapers that take radical positions or criticize college administrations.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t intend to accuse anyone here of being a fascist, but the P.C. crowd has to realize if you cannot tolerate that which you disagree with, you end up with the Danish paper/Mohammad cartoon thing, and the guy in Sweden who&#039;s running for his life on an edict from Al Qaida in Iraq. Only it&#039;s happening here, in the land of the free. These folks up in arms have never read The Onion? There&#039;s nothing more offensive. Or funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t intend to accuse anyone here of being a fascist, but the P.C. crowd has to realize if you cannot tolerate that which you disagree with, you end up with the Danish paper/Mohammad cartoon thing, and the guy in Sweden who&#8217;s running for his life on an edict from Al Qaida in Iraq. Only it&#8217;s happening here, in the land of the free. These folks up in arms have never read The Onion? There&#8217;s nothing more offensive. Or funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Garey Mckee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garey Mckee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And by the wayâ€¦ Why is the cartoonist hiding? If I draw something that others find â€œquestionableâ€ I want the chance to defend my comic, and tell people what I was thinking when I drew it. If a cartoonist doesnâ€™t have the smarts to stand up and defend what they draw, then why draw it at all?&quot;

I was wondering this myself.  Also, although nobody has said it, sometimes in cartooning a little infamy is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And by the wayâ€¦ Why is the cartoonist hiding? If I draw something that others find â€œquestionableâ€ I want the chance to defend my comic, and tell people what I was thinking when I drew it. If a cartoonist doesnâ€™t have the smarts to stand up and defend what they draw, then why draw it at all?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was wondering this myself.  Also, although nobody has said it, sometimes in cartooning a little infamy is a good thing.</p>
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