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	<title>Comments on: Is Michael Ramirez Jeff MacNelly&#8217;s artistic successor?</title>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I about choked when I saw this headline come up while googling Jeff MacNelly.

Sure, if you narrowly define &quot;artisitc&quot; successor to just talk about the visual aspect of their political cartoons, then yeah, Ramirez is in MacNelly&#039;s league. 

And I&#039;ll give Ramirez this too, he has a sense of humor. Although I often disagree with the opinions he expresses through his cartoons, at least they are often quite witty, unlike, say, that waste of ink Scott Stanis who couldn&#039;t draw or write a joke to save his life.

But Ramirez&#039;s predictable perspecive utterly torpedoes his humor. MacNelly, to my recollection, was a pretty equal opportunity joker, and often mocked fools whatever their ideology. Ramirez&#039;s in contrast is just tedious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I about choked when I saw this headline come up while googling Jeff MacNelly.</p>
<p>Sure, if you narrowly define &#8220;artisitc&#8221; successor to just talk about the visual aspect of their political cartoons, then yeah, Ramirez is in MacNelly&#8217;s league. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll give Ramirez this too, he has a sense of humor. Although I often disagree with the opinions he expresses through his cartoons, at least they are often quite witty, unlike, say, that waste of ink Scott Stanis who couldn&#8217;t draw or write a joke to save his life.</p>
<p>But Ramirez&#8217;s predictable perspecive utterly torpedoes his humor. MacNelly, to my recollection, was a pretty equal opportunity joker, and often mocked fools whatever their ideology. Ramirez&#8217;s in contrast is just tedious.</p>
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		<title>By: DT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editorial cartooning is something that is extremely subjective, and ideology plays a role in what we like and what we don&#039;t like.  Also, it&#039;s hard to compete against someone who&#039;s no longer with us.

Having said all that, I think Mike Ramirez&#039;s work is second to none, in artistic style and execution as well as in ideas.  I&#039;m rarely disappointed by a Ramirez cartoon.

By the way...who ever considered Luckovich a conservative???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editorial cartooning is something that is extremely subjective, and ideology plays a role in what we like and what we don&#8217;t like.  Also, it&#8217;s hard to compete against someone who&#8217;s no longer with us.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I think Mike Ramirez&#8217;s work is second to none, in artistic style and execution as well as in ideas.  I&#8217;m rarely disappointed by a Ramirez cartoon.</p>
<p>By the way&#8230;who ever considered Luckovich a conservative???????</p>
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		<title>By: JP Trostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Trostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 01:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacNelly was a true original (I know, ironic, given the number of MacNelly &quot;clones&quot; out there) and I don&#039;t think there &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; anyone who comes close to the combination you&#039;re looking for. Maybe Paul Combs. Steve Kelley&#039;s comic and political sensibilities are certainly close to Jeff&#039;s, albeit in a more standup, white collar vein...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacNelly was a true original (I know, ironic, given the number of MacNelly &#8220;clones&#8221; out there) and I don&#8217;t think there <b>is</b> anyone who comes close to the combination you&#8217;re looking for. Maybe Paul Combs. Steve Kelley&#8217;s comic and political sensibilities are certainly close to Jeff&#8217;s, albeit in a more standup, white collar vein&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the problem I&#039;m having is that I can&#039;t think of any really good idea men in the conservative ranks. Maybe Mike Luckovich? Is he still considered conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the problem I&#8217;m having is that I can&#8217;t think of any really good idea men in the conservative ranks. Maybe Mike Luckovich? Is he still considered conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m talking just about right leaning cartoonists - their art and ideas. The whole package deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talking just about right leaning cartoonists &#8211; their art and ideas. The whole package deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking about just draftsmanship? Ramirez is a great artist but there are other cartoonists who are as good if not better. I&#039;ve always loved David Catrow&#039;s work but it looks like he&#039;s gotten out of editorial cartooning.

If you&#039;re talking about just conservatively-oriented cartoonists then he probably is the best draftsman of that group. But then you have to start looking at the ideas behind the drawings (otherwise, why make the distinction?) and I think that&#039;s where Ramirez is a bit weaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking about just draftsmanship? Ramirez is a great artist but there are other cartoonists who are as good if not better. I&#8217;ve always loved David Catrow&#8217;s work but it looks like he&#8217;s gotten out of editorial cartooning.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re talking about just conservatively-oriented cartoonists then he probably is the best draftsman of that group. But then you have to start looking at the ideas behind the drawings (otherwise, why make the distinction?) and I think that&#8217;s where Ramirez is a bit weaker.</p>
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